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> debian-user-digest Digest                             Volume 2005 : Issue
> 2749
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> Today's Topics:
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Re: Your notice in Internet.      [
> =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zygmunt_Or=B3owski?= ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Ron
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Ron
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Antonio
> Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Ron
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Science and Religion the same??? (wa  [ Ron
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: VSFTPD problems                   [ Almut
> Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Science and Religion the same???  [ Mitch
> Wiedemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   pre-download filtering (was Re: Spam  [ Jon
> Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Request to remove Information     [ Mike
> McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Science and Religion the same???  [ Ron
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:58:32 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> John Hasler wrote:
> > Seth writes:
> > 
> >>They have a sense of national pride and feel a
> part of the Indian
> >>economy, thus they naturally prefer to hire their
> own nationals.  That's
> >>illegal here...
> > 
> > 
> > It is legal in the US to hire only US nationals.
> 
> What US do you live in?
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:50:41 +0100
> De: Zygmunt Or³owski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Objet: Re: Re: Your   notice   in  Internet.
> 
>                                                
> Clean energy
> 
>          The entire world is looking for a source of
> clean energy. I have discovered a certain
> paradox basing on which a machine called METOZ can
> be built which by harnessing the gravitation of
> our EARTH can produce clean energy.
>          The energy producing process is
> demonstrated in:
>            http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/paradox.html
>           and can be very easily confirmed by an
> experiment.
>           I am also in possession of a set of
> calculations which prove that the METOZ machine:
>  1/ does not consume water / 39 A5-pictures /;
>  2/ does not consume compressed air / 39 A5-pictures
> /;
>  3/ produces energy to the outside =    4 839  kGm 
> during a "swing cycle" /39 A5-pictures /;
>       /  this is a "weight cycle" = the centre of
> gravity of the water in the METOZ machine sinks
> ( downward movement ) /
>  4/  energy is produced / released to the outside =
> 44 600  kGm   during the "straightening cycle"
> / 39 A5-pictures /.
>       /  this is a "pressure cycle" = the water mass
> centre of gravity inside the METOZ machine
> travels upwards (upward movement) /
> Features:  1/;  2/;  3/;  4/,    of the machine
> owing to appropriate dimensions of individual
> elements of the lever mechanism.
>           The METOZ has an even-arm lever of a 1.72
> m length. The centre of gravity of the lever
> lies beneath the lever suspension point. The METOZ
> is equipped with two cylinders of a 1.6 m
> diameter each. Piston sidewalls do not contact
> directly with cylinder walls. The lever swing
> changes
> between      and    .
>            Figures (  3 x 13 x 4  =  156 )  present
> temporary, consecutive action situations at
> intervals of   .  The middle figure presents the
> machine and the side figures the position of the
> left and right cylinder and the mathematical
> description of these situations.
>            In the past I have made two models, which
> confirmed the legitimacy of my theoretical
> assumptions concerning the METOZ machine. I have got
> photographs.
>             I am looking for a person who would be
> interested in my invention.  I can offer ample
> information. I look forward to hearing from you.
> 
>                            
> http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/three_levers.html
> 
> 13 - 03 -2005  Gdynia, Polska
> Zygmunt Or³owski
>      P.S.    The term "gravitational paradox" use 
> in this description relates to the mathematical
> and physical description of the action of the
> METOZ-machine.
>               THE EARTH GRAVITATION CAN BE THE
> SOURCE OF CLEAN ENERGY.
> 
> Zygmunt Or³owski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:11:03 -0600
> De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 13:58 -0600, Mike McCarty
> wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> > > Seth writes:
> > > 
> > >>They have a sense of national pride and feel a
> part of the Indian
> > >>economy, thus they naturally prefer to hire
> their own nationals.  That's
> > >>illegal here...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is legal in the US to hire only US nationals.
> > 
> > What US do you live in?
> 
> Is "non US citizen" a protected class?  Age, gender,
> race and 
> disability are.  Sexual orientation is in some
> jurisdictions, and
> for somethings.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that citizenship isn't, though.
> 
> -- 
>
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> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson, LA USA
> PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.
> 
> I wonder how many homeless people are victims of
> childhood sexual
> abuse.
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:25:06 -0600
> De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 12:22 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
> > On 08:22, Wed 16 Nov 05, Steve Block wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:49:16AM -0500,
> Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> > > >On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:38:37AM +0100, steef
> wrote:
> > > >>Steve Lamb wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > Their is a problem with your logic, so in order to
> refuse
> > genetically engineered foods we should go back to
> the most
> > ancient type of crops, not mess with nature. Well
> that in a
> > sense would cost many many lives, as we have
> alreadly
> > altered most crops. Doing it in a lab, or through
> most of
> > human kind is the same thing. They have been
> altered, by
> > humans for the use of humans.
> 
> The problem with your argument is that Monsanto
> isn't cross-
> pollinating different strains of corn, it's splicing
> bits of
> "some other" genes in there.
> 
> If there are, umm, Unintended Consequences, the GM
> corn could
> turn in to an aggressive hard-to-kill weed that only
> produces
> enough kernels to reproduce.
> 
> Or cross-pollinate to some other plant and do
> something really
> weird.
> 
> > As far as getting fat, their is a good chance that
> it could
> > be hardwired into our genes over million of years.
> Just
> > think about it, most cultures on earth still have
> a hard time
> > finding anthing to eat, so when people do find
> food it's
> > only natural to take advantage of the food source.
> 
> One theory says that the "fat phenotype" is a useful
> evolutionary
> adaptation, and that the "skinny phenotype" would
> have a harder
> time surviving in times of low food.
> 
> Of course, it's unprovable and has nothing to to
> with how many
> Cokes I drink per day...
> 
> -- 
>
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> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson, LA USA
> PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.
> 
> "One of the annoying things about believing in free
> will and
> individual responsibility is the difficulty of
> finding somebody
> to blame your problems on. And when you do find
> somebody, it's
> remarkable how often his picture turns up on your
> driver's
> license."
> P.J. O'Rourke, satirist
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:45:56 -0500
> De: Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 02:36:11PM -0600, Ron
> Johnson wrote:
> > > Science is the new religion.  A few centuries
> ago, if you dared
> > > to go against the church, you would end up
> fried. Now, if you 
> > > dare  to say that you give a shit about what
> scientists think, 
> > > you
> > 
> > You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas.
> 
> No much difference between science and religion,
> same crap. Thus I
> decline the offer.
> 
> > What planet do you live on?
> 
> Earth.
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:36:11 -0600
> De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 14:50 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 12:22:56PM -0600, Gnu-Raiz
> wrote:
> > 
> [snip]
> > 
> > Well, the whole problem boils down to "eat what
> you want". No problems
> > with that. The problem arises if what I don't want
> to eat is masked or
> > passed as something else. Someone's freedom to
> worship science and eat
> > whatever crap scientists make should not imply
> that my freedom not to
> > eat it may be diminished.
> 
> You'll just have to go back to eating corn and wheat
> from much 
> smaller, lower-yielding crops.  Botanists (those are
> scientists,
> right?) bred taller, healthier more high-yielding
> corn, wheat and
> soy, starting 140 years ago.
> 
> >                          I'm not refusing it for
> you, I am refusing
> > someone telling me what to eat. And for sure when
> crap comes out
> > labels on it will not warn the dissidents. You
> should eat whatever you
> > want. But I also should have the same freedom.
> However today is near
> > impossible to find flour that is not fortified, or
> milk that has no
> > vitamin D added. All because some crowd of
> interested parties,
> > followed by science worshipers decided to make it
> mandatory. Doesn't
> > it bother you, that the goverment can decide that
> you shall not drink
> > milk without their added D?
> 
> Not at all.
> 
> >                            The only science that
> has withstood time
> > is mathematics, the Queen, according to Euler. The
> other branches,
> > come and go, their stability being directly
> proportional to their
> > mathematical foundation (physics). If you don't
> think so, just have a
> > look at whatever politicians or just common people
> try to push at any
> > given moment: "scientific data suggests..." is
> repeated as a mantra,
> > and taken to be the absolute truth, no matter how
> many times life has
> > proven that theories are just that, theories, that
> will be denied a
> > few years later, and replaced by new ones, which
> that time, "for sure,
> > will be right". 
> 
> No, misinterpretation of science by a stupid media
> is what does 
> that.
> 
> > Science is the new religion.  A few centuries ago,
> if you dared
> > to go against the church, you would end up fried.
> Now, if you 
> > dare  to say that you give a shit about what
> scientists think, 
> > you
> 
> You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas.
> 
> What planet do you live on?
> 
> > may not be fried physically, but you may be near
> crucified in a public
> > list as this. And I really give a shit about what
> scientists say. But
> > I care about them or someone mandating me to eat
> what I don't want.
> 
> -- 
>
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> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson, LA USA
> PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.
> 
> I don't want "fair and balanced". I want all of the
> facts, with
> enough context to make sense of it.
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:37:10 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Edward J. Shornock wrote:
> > 
> >>Thanks to asshat US Corporations like yours, I was
> out of work for 13
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] months because my job was shipped to
> India.
> > 
> > 
> >     Yes, because making money is such a crime in a
> free market society.  So
> > much so that when corporations do it it's bad but
> when individuals do it, it's
> > good.
> > 
> >     Maybe if you started barking up the right tree
> there'd be some progress.
> > Here's a hint; *why* are corporations often
> shipping jobs overseas?  Don't say
> > "cheap labor" and leave it at that.
> > 
> 
> Well, it's the reason, but not the root cause. IMO,
> the root cause
> is that the entire US economy has been jacked up by
> minimum wage
> laws.
> 
> Not too long ago I saw a special done on PBS about
> "health care
> costs" or sth like that. Especially under view were
> the attempts
> by car manufacturers to reduce "health care
> benefits" for retirees.
> One retiree they interviewed was very angry. It
> turns out that
> for 30 years or so he "started" spark plugs into the
> holes in the
> block. It seems that robots don't have the necessary
> tactile
> feedback yet to be able to do this. They can torque
> them in, but
> not start them. When he retired, his yearly wage
> amounted to
> $60,000 USD per year. He felt very entitled to that
> wage, and also to
> his retirement benefits. IMO, that's about $40,000
> more than it should
> be.
> 
> ISTM, that our entire economy has been jacked up
> about $40,000 per
> year, to accomodate. But when countries w/o minimum
> wage laws which
> are similar in size and scope to ours compete openly
> with us, we
> just can't do it. I used to make just over $100,000
> USD per year
> in telecom. Subtract $40,000 USD from that, and it's
> similar to
> a senior engineer in India. Which is where my job
> is, now.
> 
> So, we either need to lobby for minimum wage laws in
> other countries
> (not a good idea, IMO) or repeal our own laws (far
> better, I think).
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:40:41 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Robert Waldner wrote:
> > 
> >>Because with a "globalized" capitalism it's an
> arms race to the bottom:
> >> whoever has the lowest wages/taxes, the laxest
> environment laws etc. wins.
> > 
> > 
> >     Gotta love people who whine about
> "gobalization" using the internet; the
> > shining beacon of that concept.
> 
> "Globalization" is a nebulous and many faceted term.
> It means
> different things in different contexts.
> 
> > 
> >     So what exactly is wrong with the lowest
> wages/taxes?  C'mon, think it
> > through to the end.
> 
> Nothing. Except that we have an artificially jacked
> up economy
> due, in part, to minimum wage laws, and stron
> unions.
> 
> >     Let's see, corporations want to make as much
> money as possible.  Yet every
> > person who is bitching about exported jobs is
> really bitching about what....
> > 
> >     ...oh yeah, how the corporation is preventing
> *them* from making as much
> > money as possible.  Demonizing the very behavior
> they're engaged in.  That's
> > smart.
> 
> You might also think about how other countries take
> tax money re-labeled "Foreign Aid" from us in the
> USA,
> then subsidize their own industries so they can sell
> "cheaper" items than we can make on our own. Japan
> is famous for that.
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:46:19 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (14/11/05 17:36), privacy.at Anonymous Remailer
> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>Regardless, please come back in a few months and
> request its removal 
> >>>>again.  I'd love to see that original email [2]
> climb higher in 
> >>>>Google's results than the current #3 spot it
> holds now when searching 
> >>>>for your name. ;)
> >>>
> >>>It's at the number 1 spot at the moment :D.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.google.com/search?q=Weissgerber,+Tom+L
> >>
> >>Let's keep it there with lots of links!
> >>Edit your web pages, everyone....
> >>
> > 
> > Indulging in schadenfreude is one thing;
> deliberately exacerbating the
> > guy's misfortune is probably more than he
> deserves.
> 
> <<Schadenfreude>> implies a certain maliciousness, I
> think.
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:48:09 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Clive Menzies wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Indulging in schadenfreude is one thing;
> deliberately exacerbating the
> >> guy's misfortune is probably more than he
> deserves.
> >>
> >> OK he's made a relatively common mistake and then
> compounded it with the
> >> the removal request; if Tom's following this
> thread, he'll be suffering
> >> anyway.
> >>
> >> I don't see the mileage in being vindictive.
> >>
> > 
> > But there is more here than meets the eye: good
> ol' Tom opened up a can 
> > of worms that runs pretty deep, apparently...
> > 
> > H
> 
> There exists quite a lot of very deep resentment
> over outsourcing on the
> part of engineers in these USA.
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:57:42 -0600
> De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re:
> Request to remove
>       Information)
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 15:45 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 02:36:11PM -0600, Ron
> Johnson wrote:
> > > > Science is the new religion.  A few centuries
> ago, if you dared
> > > > to go against the church, you would end up
> fried. Now, if you 
> > > > dare  to say that you give a shit about what
> scientists think, 
> > > > you
> > > 
> > > You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas.
> > 
> > No much difference between science and religion,
> same crap. Thus I
> > decline the offer.
> 
> Ummmm.  Hmmmm.  Hmmm, again.  From gcide
> 
>  $ dict religion
>   1. The outward act or form by which men indicate
> their
>      recognition of the existence of a god or of
> gods having
>      power over their destiny, to whom obedience,
> service, and
>      honor are due; the feeling or expression of
> human love,
>      fear, or awe of some superhuman and overruling
> power,
>      whether by profession of belief, by observance
> of rites
>      and ceremonies, or by the conduct of life; a
> system of
>      faith and worship; a manifestation of piety;
> as, ethical
>      religions; monotheistic religions; natural
> religion;
>      revealed religion; the religion of the Jews;
> the religion
>      of idol worshipers.
>      [1913 Webster]
> 
>  $ dict science
>   2. Accumulated and established knowledge, which
> has been
>      systematized and formulated with reference to
> the
>      discovery of general truths or the operation of
> general
>      laws; knowledge classified and made available
> in work,
>      life, or the search for truth; comprehensive,
> profound, or
>      philosophical knowledge.
>      [1913 Webster]
> 
> Sooooo, no.  Science and Religion are *not* the
> same.
> 
> You are confusion "Science" with "worship of
> science"
> 
> > > What planet do you live on?
> > 
> > Earth.
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
>
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> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson, LA USA
> PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.
> 
> "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best
> forms [of
> government] those entrusted with power have, in
> time, and by slow
> operations, perverted it into tyranny."
> Thomas Jefferson
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:05:00 +0100
> De: Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: VSFTPD problems
> 
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 07:55:08PM +0000, Adam Hardy
> wrote:
> > Rudi Starcevic on 16/11/05 07:52, wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Just can't get vsftpd to work?
> > >
> > >apt-get install vsftpd always used to work ....
> > >
> > >This is my error:
> > >
> > >*500 **OOPS*: *cap_set_proc*
> > >
> > >
> > >[quote]
> > >On Linux systems, if capability support was
> disabled in the kernel or
> > >
> > >built as a module and not loaded, vsftpd will
> fail to run.  You'll see
> > >this error message:
> > >  *500 **OOPS*: *cap_set_proc*
> > >Build and load the appropriate kernel module to
> continue.
> > >
> > >[/quote]
> > >
> > >What is the 'appropriate kernel module to
> continue' ??
> > 
> > I've been there and done that, but I looked up my
> notes and 
> > unfortunately this is all I wrote down:
> > 
> > 
> > "Just solved a problem with kernel 2.6.11 where I
> had opted to have a 
> > module capability not loaded at boot time (dunno
> why) but it came up 
> > with the weird error cap_set_proc and
> vsf_sysutil_recv_peek"
> > 
> > I think googling the mail archives or just the
> whole net should turn up 
> > the offending module.
> 
> the module is called "capability", i.e. "modprobe
> capability" should do
> the trick...
> 
> (For anyone interested, it's about providing
> facilities to segment
> the almighty power of the superuser into a more
> fine-grained set of
> discrete capabilities (i.e. privileges), e.g. for
> running daemons.
> The userland side of it is handled by libcap...)
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:05:03 -0500
> De: Mitch Wiedemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re:
> Request to remove     Information)
> 
> Could you all argue about this amongst yourselves? 
> You're spamming the
> rest of the *debian-user* list.
> 
> Remember Debian?  It's a computer operating system.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Mitch Wiedemann
> Webmaster - Ithaca Free Software Association
> http://ithacafreesoftware.org 
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:11:30 +0000
> De: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: pre-download filtering (was Re: Spamassassin
> not doing blacklist lookups)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 07:58:07PM +0000, Adam Hardy
> wrote:
> > sorry if this is a dumb question, but your email
> implies spam-assassin
> > does DNS look-ups to filter out spam - which is
> not what I thought
> > after giving spam assassin the once-over
> check-out. Is it so? What
> > level of effectiveness does it have?
> > 
> > And can it actually filter your pop3 server's
> inbox before download?
> 
> Not sure about spamassassin in general, but most
> static rule-based
> filters have some rules which are applied to the
> headers, and some which
> are applied to the body. Presumably, in order for
> there to be an
> advantage in filtering before download, you don't
> want the entire
> message fetched and scanned locally, so the filter
> must be operating on
> either just the headers, or a preset number of lines
> of body too[1].
> 
> So, the accuracy of such a filter would be entirely
> limited to those
> rules which were applicable to the headers only,
> say[2]. Is that really
> good enough?
> 
> 
> [1] I believe it would have to be a line-based
> cut-off, due to POP3
> protocol restrictions.
> 
> [2] These include many of the rules mentioned in
> this thread
> (RECV_IN_SOMERBL, SUBJECT_VIAGRA or whatever)
> 
> -- 
> Jon Dowland
> http://jon.dowland.name/
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:06:03 -0600
> De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Request to remove Information
> 
> Carl Fink wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:35:15AM -0500, Mitch
> Wiedemann wrote:
> > 
> >>I'd like to make a motion that we discontinue this
> very OT thread.
> > 
> > 
> > Second.
> 
> You don't have to vote, nor do you have to make
> requests.
> Just use the delete key. I use a threaded reader, so
> I
> can delete whole threads. It also has the ability to
> look for key words in the subject, to, body, etc.
> and *automatically* delete mail messages.
> 
> I suggest you investigate these capabilities which
> may
> be present in your mailer.
> 
> Mike
> -- 
>
p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it
> for you.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
> > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:12:54 -0600
> De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Objet: Re: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re:
> Request to
>       remove  Information)
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:05 -0500, Mitch Wiedemann
> wrote:
> > Could you all argue about this amongst yourselves?
>  You're spamming the
> > rest of the *debian-user* list.
> 
> We are users of Debian.  We are on the debian-user
> mailing list.
> What's the problem?
> 
> I get your point, though.
> 
> > Remember Debian?  It's a computer operating
> system.
> 
> -- 
>
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> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson, LA USA
> PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.
> 
> Liberals are funny... hardcore against the death
> penalty, except
> for the "crime" of being conceived at an
> inconvenient time.
> 



        

        
                
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