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On 03/18/08 16:03, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 03/18/08 15:41, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>> [snip]
>>  
>>> changes in HD tech).  6.  I have seen dozens of catastrophic  hardware
>>> controller failures with complete data lost and not one mdadm failure.
>>>     
>>
>> That just means you're using sucky hardware.  We've been using h/w
>> controllers for 15 years, and never had a problem.
>>
>> Of course, they are proprietary, and from a Tier 1 vendor, cost a
>> lot of money, and maintenance fees are high.
>>
>> But we've never lost data from a controller failure.  (And damned
>> little loss from any other reason, either, since there's a 24x7
>> admin staff that pays attention to drive failure lights, and
>> replaces them immediately.)
>>
> And that detailed care makes all the difference in the world!  Now limp
> along with a drive failure, add a controller that needs updating and
> perform the update.  Suddenly you find the meta data is "unstable" and
> you can not recover from it.  I have NOT seen data loss from a
> professional, on the ball data center.

Well heck, no one who cares about his data would do that...  You
replace the drive, let it rebuild, and *then* do the update.

Or... don't buy sucky h/w in the first place.  If you *really* care
about your data, you spend the extra bucks for quality h/w that has
a competent support staff behind it.  And you pay for an adequate
backup solution!

Otherwise, "you" are blaming on the h/w the sins of the humans who
bought the crummy h/w.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

"Working with women is a pain in the a**."
My wife
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