On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:12 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, thanks. that did the trick nicely. > > i did an: > apt-cache show openssh-server | grep Depends | sed -e 's/,/\n' > which of course didn't show the 'Recommends' so i totally missed looking > for that. > > though, i don't think i'll forget this one again any time soon :) > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Phil Requirements < > simultane...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On 2010-12-04 23:07:31 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> > so, i go to install openssh-server on a machine that i intend to be a >> web >> > development environment and it wants to install libx11-6, x11-common, >> > libx11-data and some other stuff. i went to track down what was >> depending on >> > x libraries, but i decided it really doesn't matter - why do i need x >> > libraries to run an ssh server? >> >> You certainly don't need X to have a ssh server. I only looked at it >> it briefly, but I'm guessing it tried to install the package "xauth", >> which is a "recommends" of openssh-server. >> >> The new default for aptitude is to say "yes" to recommends. There is a >> way to configure your machine so that it says "no" by default to >> recommends. That has been discussed recently on this list. >> >> > i've spent two hours googling (and even bing) on how to keep x windows >> off >> > of debian. i've found tons of stuff about x windows problems which is >> ironic >> > since my problem is keeping a minimalistic system which doesn't include >> x. i >> > know one of the options gentoo's ports offers is not installing x (or >> used >> > to offer). >> >> I can see that you would have trouble find that information in a web >> search. I think that getting a system with X should be as simple as >> not allowing it to be installed. I think the problem you are running >> into is that the package system is pulling in recommends >> automatically. >> >> > i've found some options in dpkg, but nothing in apt-get. i don't see >> anyway >> > to pass dpkg's --ignore-depends with apt-get. i'm thinking i'm looking >> for >> > something in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt-config but i can't come up with >> > anything. >> >> You can ignore a recommends at the time of installing by doing: >> >> aptitude install openssh-server -R >> >> I don't use apt-get, but when I search inside the man page... >> >> man apt-get >> >> ...I see the option "--no-install-recommends". So that would translate >> into: >> >> apt-get install openssh-server --no-install-recommends >> >> If you want to set an option so that aptitude says "no" by default >> to recommends, you can try this tutorial: >> >> >> http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/01/07/howto-tell-apt-get-not-to-install-recommends-packages-in-debian-linux/ >> > since i prefer apt-get; after messing around with this stuff for a while; apt-get() {if [[ $1 == "install" ]]; then command apt-get "$@" --no-install-recommends ; else command apt-get "$@"; fi; } i decided to look at apt.conf and between google and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz i came up with this: # cat apt.conf APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; which could probably be written better as: APT { Install-Recommends "False"; Install-Suggests "False"; }; thanks again for the help > >> > > is it possible to have a functioning debian install without x windows? if >> > so, why isn't this documented maybe in the debian faq or something? >> >> Yes, many computers do not use X, especially server computers. >> >> I think one reason it is not documented is because many people setting >> up CLI-only computers, or server computers, are already experienced >> with wrangling their package management software. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Phil >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101205055557.ga18...@kasploosh.net >> >> >
