On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:32:38PM -0300, Christoph Simon wrote: > Unfortunately, there are many private victims for false positives of > RBL-like lists, according to them, mostly due to the lack of response > from our ISPs. As a matter of fact, I do have a fixed IP but that is > taken out of a range of IPs mostly used for dynamic assignement. To > make it worse, the ISP denies delegation of the reverse > resolution.
I know lots of small businesses in Brazil that are in the exact same situation... > The problem is the administration of these RBL lists, > which either tell you that any kind of communication with them will be > published on usenet (including valid email addresses), as they > presuppose that everybody in their list _is_ a spammer, or just don't > give any chance to contact them. Although I can't contribute anything > constructive to the above discussion, I do want to use this context to > apeal these list's users, trying to convince their maintainers, that > false positives do hurt people in many ways and that not being able to > tell them, does'nt really help. I think it depends on how you choose the lists you're going to use. For example, ordb only lists open relays, and inclusion/exclusion is automated. There is also relays.visi.com, which seems to be very conservative. I've had luck with proxies.relays.monkeys.com, too (no false positives at all), but I can't say they're "conservative". But I decided not to block dialup... I'd be blocking some mail servers I've configured myself! :-) J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]