On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Lisi <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wednesday 29 June 2011 19:50:59 Tom H wrote:
>>>>>>> If I were the grub maintainer, my first step in dropping grub1 in >>>>>>> Debian would be to make it unavailable from d-i... I definitely said the above. I didn't realize that this was what Camaleon was referring to; sorry. > LILO is being maintained again, so those of us who don't yet want to use GRUB > 2 and are being firmly told that it is almost immoral to want easy access to > GRUB 1 since it is not being maintained, will obviously have to use LILO. ;-) > > And yes, I would exepct to be able to get access to all three if the expert > install is chosen. Except... Except that volunteers will do what they are > happy to do. And if you don't like what they do, you just have to do it for > yourself or pay someone else to do it for you. > > So the argument that those who write the installer have a right to decide what > they put in it is incontrovertible. But the argument that newbies might have > trouble with something is a poor excuse for not putting something in the > expert install. I don't think that anyone in this thread suggested that using grub1 and insisting on using grub1 is "almost immoral" but it's an entertaining viewpoint! :) Instead of looking at this from the perspective of a user who doesn't want to change bootloaders and wants to have all possible options available at install time and later, look at this from the perspective of Debian as a project. Do you really want the grub maintainers to split their time and energy between maintaining a bootloader that's being actively developed and its previous iteration, which has been EOL'd by upstream? Even though I prefer grub1's setup and consider it more than good enough for my purposes, I'm glad that it's been dropped from d-i (I doubt that the d-i developers took this decision without consulting others, including the grub maintainers) and I look forward to the time that grub1's removed from the repositories because that'll show that the resources of Debian as a project are being well managed. I don't use Debian on the desktop so I don't keep track of the evolution of DEs, but there must've been a decision at some point to drop KDE 3 and there'll be a decision at some point to drop GNOME 2. It's normal to upgrade a distribution's components and follow in the footsteps of upstream as long as stability isn't compromised (and it isn't in grub2's case). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
