On 30/10/12 05:02, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/29/2012 9:17 PM, Celejar wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:06:36 -0500 >> Stan Hoeppner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 10/29/2012 6:08 PM, Celejar wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting. Google shows that there was a thread on /. a year ago >>>> about the question of ARM on the desktop, but a quick skim shows no >>>> obviously compelling reason why it won't ever happen. Thoughts? >>> >>> There a dozens of reasons. First and foremost, ARM sells millions of >> >> Thanks much for the detailed explanation. [I assume you really mean >> 'billions']. > > No, I mean millions. One billion chips per year would equal 1 for every > 7 humans on the planet, and that's simply impossible. Over 3 billion > people have never used an electronic device. That's almost half the > Earth's population. Do the math. > Your initial conditions are awry: you need to start by assuming multiple chips _per person_ in the developed world. Mobile phones; televisions; routers; cameras; PDAs; central heating controllers; washing machines, to name a few. Then there's probably 10 per car. Now you do the math!
>> I don't fully understand / agree with everything you >> write, but very interesting nevertheless. [I'm not conversant enough in >> these issues to challenge you on anything you write.] > > It's simple economics: If one could make a decent amount of profit > pushing an ARM based desktop CPU into the market, they'd do it. They > haven't done it, nor will do it, because there's no money to be made, > only losses, as history has shown us. Both IBM/Motorola and DEC lost > money and failed to drive adoption of their RISC chips in desktops. > Apple dropped PPC for Intel, eliminating the last RISC CPU in desktop > machines. Given this history, if you're an exec at ARM, would you > consider such a push viable? Let alone profitable? No, you wouldn't. > Well, maybe the've got more insight than you: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/30/amd_to_partner_with_arm_for_server_cpus/ Now what do your "simple" economics have to say? You also seem to be unaware that ARM does not manufacture anything; it merely licenses designs to chip foundries. The foundations of all your arguments are at best shaky! -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:[email protected] Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
