Le 10.10.2013 10:24, Joe a écrit :
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:21:29 +0200
[email protected] wrote:
Le 09.10.2013 23:04, Joe a écrit :
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:52:43 -0300
> Ezequiel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for your replies. I am actually pinning OO in order
>> to use oldstable versions. I guess I will try to compile it an
>> make my own repos. You were very helpfull.
>>
>
> Bear in mind that OOo and LO use Java for various purposes, and
> Java is
> under continuous siege from the bad guys.
But Java is not a dependency, it is only recommended. Those tools
works fine without java. I would not even have thought half a minute
to install them otherwise, and not because of security breaches in
java ( which will more often be used via internet browsers, not for
something like an office suite ).
As I said, I'm not a power user of most of LO, perhaps it isn't used
elsewhere, but it's a dependency of Base. Despite this, I had Base
installed without Java, but was unable to do much by way of
connecting
to data without it.
I have a vague recollection that originally, OOo was written in Java
which years ago was popular for writing cross-platform applications.
If
so, clearly LO is removing it progressively, and it may disappear
from
Base at some point. I do know attitude of the US Dept. of Homeland
Security towards Java, and its days anywhere may be numbered.
--
Joe
Ah, no, I apologize, you were right. Base seems to have a hard
dependency on Java, so I was really wrong.
I have no idea why it depends on Java, but it is written in C++, as the
debtags shows, as the rest of Libre/Open Office.
To be honest, I also thought that it was written in Java until recently
( well, I think I discovered that in the beginning of the year ), but
someday I said that on a forum and was instantly replied that it was
written in C++.
About it having be rewritten in C++ instead of Java, I do not know, I
did not made any searches about that, but I strongly doubt it. C++ is as
portable as Java ( just it needs to be recompiled and lacks standard
portable GUI - and other features - that Java provides. But Java's
standard GUI features are not the most used, as some Java dev said me.
So... ). Plus, rewritten a huge... a very huge in facts, software in
another language is really hard, especially if you come from a language
where memory is managed by some obscure automatic mechanisms to come to
language for which most of the power comes to RAII.
But my doubts can be wrong ;)
About Java's security problems... honestly, the only one thing which
makes it true is that it is a popular and traditional language to write
portable web applets. Like windows being the main target of hackers, in
fact. I do not like Java, but I have learn that performance and security
issues are not a programming language's problem, but a programmer's
problem. Take a look in aptitude, try the games. Some are written in C
or C++ and are as "beautiful" as 90's games, and they can not be run on
my modern netbook. On the other side, some Java's one works perfectly.
Debian really changed my mind on a lot of wrong ideas about computer
sciences :)
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