On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:06 PM, André Nunes Batista <andrenbati...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 14:22 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM, John <johnrchamp...@wowway.com> wrote: >>> >>> Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over >>> init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? >>> >>> Is it provoked by systemd's effort to be adopted having at least found >>> a home with gnome, made urgent by gnome's status as our default? >> >> Although this isn't the first debian-devel systemd-slugfest, there's >> more of a sense of urgency and finality this time because GNOME 3.8 >> depends on logind, and, other than on Ubuntu for systemd <=204, that >> means that GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd-as-pid-1. > > And does one really needs Gnome? Based on the level of user > dissatisfaction I'd say Gnome shouldn't interfere with boot process. > Especially one that tries to bundle everything... maybe gnome-devs are > trying hard to address smarts, tablets and gadgets only?
It's not a question of need; some people like/prefer GNOME. Part of the discussion and a possbile solution is ensure that a DE doesn't depend on a se=pecific init. It's silly to dismiss GNOME-Shell and Unity as tablet-targeted interfaces when Apple's been using essentially the same interface for 13 years, long before iPads, iPhones, and touch iPods. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxbkfjjtzlgb1pzesztdb2kzmhuzvw5qamnqwygwvj...@mail.gmail.com