Hi Michael. You got that right, exactly. I had followed some instructions from 
a blog post to install Oracle database on the system, but it was long, 
incomplete instructions, requiring a fair amount of mucking around in the 
system for me to try to get it right. I didn't quite get it running yet. What 
threw me off was the way this took a few months to cause problems to arise in 
package management.

dpkg and apt-get are working again!

(more below, interleaved)

On 2014-10-07, at 11:32 AM, Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> wrote:

> Am 07.10.2014 um 19:53 schrieb Don Armstrong:
>> On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Sentientmeat Net wrote:
>>> Hmm, I tried to figure out what group id might be required to replace...
>>> 
>>> 'vm.hugetlb_shm_grop dba_group_gid'
>>> 
>>> ...with, in...
>>> 
>>> /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.d/* (and I have no idea where or which
>>> package 'dba_group_gid' came from--something standard and maintained I'm
>>> 99.9% sure).
>> 
>> Well, if you find the file that has it, it'll be more obvious what it
>> is. (But using codesearch.debian.net, I don't find any matches for
>> dba_group_gid in Debian... so it's likely to not be in Debian at all.)
> 
> A quick internet search indicates that this might be related to oracle
> database http://www.linuxinsight.com/oracle10g_on_debian.html

Exactly.

> Sentientmeat, do you remember having an oracle product installed on this
> particular system?

For sure, an it took a lot of fiddling to try to get Debian to look a little 
more like Red Hat in order for the installation scripts to have a chance. I 
followed some instructions from a blog post, but hadn't remembered editing a 
few lines in sysctl.conf or whatever it's called until I opened the file and 
saw my comments near where dba_group_gid was mentioned. Luckily I commented 
those lines, so I was pretty confident I could comment them out at least until 
the next time I attempt to get Oracle installed again.

what threw me off the trail was that this didn't cause problems with Debian 
updates until a couple months after I added this line. Maybe some change in 
sysctl or procps or systemd (whatever those are).

Thanks for the input! --dean

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