Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/4/2014 4:41 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:08:50 +0100,
Peter Nieman <[email protected]> a écrit :
On 04/11/14 19:04, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Using the threat of forking to make people change their mind
I didn't threaten anybody.
do not send 100 mails to ML's
I didn't. I don't even know what "ML's" are.
That was not directed to you, but a more generic statement about people
talking about forking debian.
(ML's == Mailing List's)
I don't see that as a "threat". I see it as an attempt to determine if
there are enough others interested to make it a viable project.
And lists like this one are a perfect place to find out of there are
other users interested in such a project.
And beyond that, the level of interest in a fork might, hopefully,
provide some useful feedback into the Debian decision making process.
(And in turn, the response to such feedback, or lack thereof, might
further inform interest in a fork.)
Personally, the more this drags on, the more I'm convinced that those of
us who deploy and manage servers would really benefit from a fork that
retains the "flavor" and philosophy of pre-systemd (and maybe pre-udev)
Debian. Apt-based packaging remains (IMHO) the class of the field, and
the primary distinguishing feature of Debian and its derivatives.
Beyond that, sticking with modularity and choice, and a far more basic
(i.e., configurable, systemv compatible) init system would be very
attractive.
Then again, from a server-side perspective, the BSDs (traditional), and
illumos-derived distributions are starting to look very better and
better - given that they remain focused primarily on server-side and
data center applications.
I really do wonder what upstream developers think about all of this - it
remains a perspective that is conspicuously missing from most of this
discussion.
Miles Fidelman
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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