Scott Ferguson <[email protected]> writes: > On 29 November 2014 at 07:05, lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> Scott Ferguson <[email protected]> writes: >> > <snipped> >>> >>> >>> On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: >>>> >>>> Didier, >>>> >>>> you have *totally* missed the OPs point. >>>> >>>> BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" >>> >>> Hyperbole much? >> >> ? > > "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device"
What you consider exaggerated and what not is your opinion. >>>> what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple >>>> init systems? >>> >>> It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. >>> The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. >> >> Huh? Does that mean that the users are left to deal themselves with the >> problems that could arise from this? >> >>>> Other than that, the OP has a good point. I found that every time >>>> something is related to the freedesktop stuff, >>> >>> Freedesktop just provides hosting. Substitute Sourceforge for >>> Freedesktop and see how well your "theory" flies. >> >> "freedesktop.org is open source / open discussion software projects >> working on interoperability and shared technology for X Window System >> desktops. The most famous X desktops are GNOME and KDE, but developers >> working on any Linux/UNIX GUI technology are welcome to participate."[1] > > How does that demonstrate that the systemd project is not "hosted" by > freedesktop.org? Why would that be relevant? > Did your lips get sore or did you not quote the very next paragraph > for other reasons? ? > <quote> > Software > > freedesktop.org hosts any "on-topic" software projects</quote> >> >> >> [1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ >> >>>> it's not understandable > > >>>> at all because the documentation utterly sucks or doesn't even exist. >>>> It's an entirely dead end. >>>> >>>> Do we really need or want that? If we need it, what for? If we want >>>> it, wouldn't we be much better off using Windows? >>> >>> Please replace "we" with "I" - it gives the misleading impression you >>> speak for the vast majority when you only speak for yourself. >> >> Please learn to read and to understand what you're reading, and you may >> find that I was asking questions. > > You could learn a lot about yourself by eating your own dog food. > >> To draw a map for you, try replacing >> "we" with "users". > > Save your crayons. I'm a Debian user. I "wouldn't be better off using > Windows". You speak only for your self, not "everybody" (or even a > significant majority) and it would be presumptuous to believe > otherwise don't you think? Then why are you so persistently trying to say that I would be speaking for anyone? >>> Note that opposition to *the choice* of using systemd 'probably' >>> constitutes less than 1% of users. Noise, repetition, and FUD doesn't:- >>> ;increase that percentage >>> ;give you credibility >>> ;justify your bullying >>> and works against those that have genuine problems with systemd. >> >> And why do you mention this here? > > To provide constructive advice on "how to get along with a > *community*. Not in the expectation that everyone cares. "Community" > includes all sorts, including minorities that many don't want to > embrace. And what's your point? > <snipped> >> >>> The appropriate, polite way to deal with things you don't like - is >>> speak *once* and state your case fully when you do. It's healthy to >>> express concerns - it's unhealthy, to all, when you flood forums with >>> them. The means justifies the ends - and bullying doesn't end well. >> > <snipped example of how not to act> Whatever ... You should have snipped your own posts to begin with. Anyway, you didn't contribute anthing to what the OP said, and I don't find this part of the discussion worthwhile at all. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
