On Monday, January 12, 2015 11:54:54 PM Joel Rees did opine And Gene did reply: > 2015/01/13 5:04 "Ric Moore" <wayward4...@gmail.com>: > > On 01/12/2015 11:50 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> You should learn from some REAL security experts, not the internet. > > > > Like who? There are compromises all over the net, with consumer > > security > > files lying in the open like gutted bleeding fish. I don't think > anyone is a "REAL security expert", except the ones breaking in. Any > advances we have now is result of closing the barn doors after the > cow got out. I guess we owe the BlackHats that much. :/ Ric > > > Can I read you as saying that the black hats may be the closest thing > to security experts that we have? > > I was thinking I agree. > > But I also think we are letting them define security. > > I keep forgetting that I don't like the definitions they seem to want > to impose on us. > > Joel Rees
I'm with Ric on that. We seem to have lost our "proactive attitude" about security. The net result is predictable in that the lunatics are now running the asylum. Hi Ric. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501130534.12709.ghesk...@wdtv.com