On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:59:15 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody <rustompm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > That I can also accept. I see that a lot of people advice me on
> > going with something other than C, and I can understand that there
> > are good reasons for this advice. While I still want to learn C at
> > some point, I'm beginning to think that it might be wise to
> > consider getting a good foundation in another language first.
> 
> In case it helps I saw this
> 
> | And Rob Hagan at Monash had shown that you could teach students
> more COBOL | with one semester of Scheme and one semester of COBOL
> than you could with | three semesters of COBOL. 
> from here
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/erlang-programming/5X1irAmLMD8/qCQJ11Y5jEAJ 
> 
> What that is saying is that priming your learning curve is more 
> important than what you learn. And COBOL (like C) is a terrible way
> to do that

I understand.

> And if you still need convincing that C is a painful intro to
> programming, please read section 4 of
> http://www.the-magus.in/Publications/chor.pdf

The first few pages was enough to support your statement :)

> Beyond that what you should take up really depends on what calls you:
> - python is nice if its scripts

Well, on a practical level I need something that can be used for
sysadmin tasks, preferably in a way that is somewhat portable. If it
can also be used to learn basic GUI programming, then that is a big
bonus. Digging into system internals is also interesting.

> - something else (haskell?) or maybe something more esoteric like
> Julia, APL if its mathematical

"Esoteric" may be fascinating, but I need something where I can find
online resources and support, so nothing too weird.

> - etc
> ie choose a language that optimizes an area that primarily calls you
> 
> > 
> > Would Python be appropriate? I see a lot of software these days
> > that is written in Python, so it would be helpful in that way.
> 
> Specifically for linux system-level stuff, python will give you
> 80-90% of the C level stuff at ⅕ the pain.
> eg for TCP/IP networking look at
> https://docs.python.org/2/library/socket.html

OK, that sounds reasonable. I am looking at books that I can purchase
online, does anyone know if "Learning Python" from O'Reilly is decent?

Petter

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