On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 06:27:16PM CEST, [email protected] said: > > My take is: I am a fan of Debian. I don't want systemd on "my" computer. > Systemd is the default, and their proponents are no idiots and I assume > good intentions. I accept that their viewpoint is as valid as mine. > > So it is (in part) on me to keep Debian without systemd a viable option. > > There are many dependencies on systemd (e.g. Gnome) which aren't Debian's > fault. No problem for me, since I don't particularly care for Gnome, but > perhaps there are other needs. > > As I see it, there are quite smart people on both sides of the debate > and it seems best to try to get along instead of slinging accusations > at each other (both sides have been very effective at that, and > sadly, I'm not innocent in this either. I regret that).
My feeling is also that once you begin to ask for explanations (how or why) it is considered by some systemd fans as a frontal attack, which it is not. What is the use of this libsystemd0 you get even when systemd was never installed ? Where are migration tutorials, docs for people who did not develop systemd ? To those questions I never got answers or even worse (like when I was answered that I had to write the docs). I still have a setting working without systemd that I do not know hoxw to make with it. I still do not know what a mount unit is. I saw that systemd can start daemons when a certain disk is mounted, I still look how to do it, etc... If I where to write a doc now it would be : this setting was possible, systemd maks it impossible. Which is surely false, but given the info I get, may become a reality. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

