On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
>> On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and
>>> in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10.
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-
>>> alongside-a-pre-
>>> installed-windows-with-uefi
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ​I read through some of this.  If I understood it correctly, if you buy a
>> machine that comes with e.g. Windows 10 installed for you then this secure
>> boot feature would make it difficult to boot and install certain Linux
>> distributions - but some versions of Ubuntu might be OK apparently.
>>
>> But if you would buy such a machine, do you not also get the Windows key
>> codes for the OS.......?????
>>
>> If you do, then could you not just back up the work files on the
>> installation and then uninstall Windows and reinstall it with the
>> secure boot feature turned off and then install the Linux distro
>> of your choice?
>>
>> When I get a new PC I specifically request that it has no operating
>> system on it and then install everything from scratch.
>>
>
> I follow a variation on that that suits my personal/idiosyncratic
> preferences for buying used/reconditioned hardware (no need for cutting
> edge) and buying locally rather than online (fewer communication snafus).
>
> I go into the store with a live DVD or flash drive. I began doing this to
> see if a standard install of Debian had appropriate drivers. I found a
> secondary advantage in discovering how straight forward it was to boot from
> something other than the default hard disk. A couple months ago I had
> occasion to go one step further and while and do a full install while in
> the store (odd permutation of hardware and software).
> YMMV
>
>
>
>> I have not encountered this problem as yet.
>>
>
> I'm not clear to what "this problem" refers.
>

​As I understand it, it is possible to purchase a PC or laptop which has
Windows 10 preinstalled on the hard drive.

Apparently the default installation in a UEFI capable machine includes
something called the "secure boot" facility.  This new feature makes
installing Linux distros difficult in some cases.
We have been trying to help the OP with this problem.

Regards

MF

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>> Cheers
>>
>> MF
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