On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic <jode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > <field.engin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > > > <jode...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > >>> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can > > > >>> install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update > > > >>> "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did a mail list archive > > > >>> search for this, but didn't find anything specific. Or did I > > > >>> miss the solution? > > > >>> > > > >>> My Test Setup: > > > >>> > > > >>> Stretch Stable 64-bit from net-install disk in Virtualbox 5.1 > > > >>> on a Wheezy host. Basic terminal install (no GUI), converted > > > >>> to sysvinit (did not do anything to systemd files. Kept as > > > >>> dependencies) and then added xorg, openbox window manager, > > > >>> etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks for any feedback. > > > >>> > > > >>> B > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> dpkg -s unattended-upgrades > > > > > > > > Not installed either by me or the installer > > > > > > > >> If it is installed, it did your updates and security upgrades > > > >> for you. If you do not like it and want to do manual > > > >> updates/upgrades, do with root privs: > > > > > > > > I have always done this manually since I first started using > > > > Debian (Sarge). And always will. This is my personal machine. > > > > > > > >> sed -i 's/1/0/g' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades > > > >> > > > >> For further reading and understanding: > > > >> > > > >> https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reference. I've been aware of this for a long > > > > time, but chose not to use it. > > > > > > > > My problem must be something else. > > > > > > You also have packagekit and discover to deal with and who knows > > > what else. Stopping auto-install is not that difficult, but > > > stopping auto-update is a problem. > > > > I think you've assumed some things incorrectly. I did a basic > > terminal only install with only basic system utilties, the last > > option on the list. No Desktop of any kind. No xserver. > > Packagekit is not installed. Discover was as a dependency, but I > > didn't install it explicitly. No auto-install or auto-update > > either. I converted to sysvinit, but left systemd stuff as > > dependencies. Later will install xorg and openbox, etc. for my > > GUI. This is the same way I installed Wheezy 5 years ago. And it > > works (and always has) fine. > > > > FWIW, a few months ago, I installed Stretch RC2 the same way to > > test it and everything worked including apt-get update, upgrade, > > etc. > > > > So, something is wrong. And I won't install it for real until I > > discover what. > > > > B > > > > If you have minimal install, why do you suspect that something is > wrong, rather to suppose that all is fine and that simply there was > no security updates for your install? It is stable now, and as far as > i can remember, all those security updates we did have of lately were > somehow tied for graphical part, plus apache and ngninx. Apart for > security updates, tough luck of getting some other updates on stable. > And "everything worked fine" on your install of Stretch RC2 because > it was still testing and there was much more updates then? That was my first thought. And as I used a Stable net-install disk for my first tests of Stable, the system would have been up-to-date after the install. But it's been two weeks since that time. I've added X, a window manager, utilities, apps, etc. Based on my past experience, historically, there should have been some fixes. I've never come across any such new release -- Debian or others -- that didn't need a plethora of fixes in those few days to a month after. Or perhaps Stretch is bug free. Or as I said in another post: Maybe the maintainers are taking a vacation. As far as RC2: I dist-upgraded it to Stable in the course of my tests. And as soon as it hit stable, apt-get upgrades ceased producing anything for a week. So, I downloaded the Stable net-install CD for a new install to see if there was any differences. B