On Sunday 10 December 2017 23:50:13 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 22:17:12 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 19:02:49 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:43:02 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the > > > > > > docs doesn't seem like my error, they should have been part > > > > > > of the install. IMO. > > > > > > > > > > That's ridiculous. I don't want all the docs on all the > > > > > installations. I only install docs on the machines that either > > > > > I'm going to read it on or one with a big disk. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > While I do have spinning rust drives of a terrabyte on both of > > > > those credit card sized machines, functioning as swaps and work > > > > areas, they are still booting and running from a 32GB sd chip > > > > disk. > > > > > > …whereas the two laptops I mainly type into have respectively 60 > > > and 80 GB disks of rust. Both have two root filesystems with > > > different versions of Debian. The smaller drive's PC needs a swap > > > partition to function, the other needs one for hibernation. Not a > > > lot of space left for /home. Installing shedloads of docs for each > > > person's PITA would contravene Debian's sensible policies. > > > > This I'd guess is important, if you have several users. I don't, > > except for amanda and nut, and thats only on this machine. All the > > rest have one user, me, known under various aliases > > That's not what I meant. > > You find polkit a PITA, so you want Debian to install the docs > automatically when you install the package. > > Someone else finds ntp a PITA, so they lobby Debian for ntp's docs. > > "What about rsyslog?" says somebody else. "That should have the > same treatment; it's a PITA." > > Debian's answer: if you want the docs for foo, then install foo-doc, > but don't force them onto others by making them a dependency of foo. > > > because the idiot > > installer is now set to give the first user the machines name like > > pi or rock64. I spent a month trying to fix user 1000 to be me > > instead of pi on the pi. > > Have you tried setting the hostname to "gene" whenever you install > onto a new machine, and then changing *its* name to pi or rock64 > afterwards. That might be easier. > > Cheers, > David.
Thats a great idea David, except the installs on an armhf or arm64 are the complete image, and the install is a dd session with the sdcard in a card reader. So its rather effectively carved in pretty hard granite. :( I don't even know if there is an install iso for an arm64 from debian. Neither of these seem to come with enough of a bios to actually boot and install, not from a usb key, and certainly not from an optical drive. No trace of a grub anyplace once its been done either. There are instructions for making the pi's boot from rust, but its a one way as its said to be an otp rom in charge of that, however when I try to set that bit, its write protected even for root. In all 3 of the pi's I bought. And there is even less info around on how the rock64 boots. Frustrating... Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>