On 12/28/17, The Wanderer <wande...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2017-12-28 at 09:37, Dan Norton wrote: > >> On 12/22/2017 08:46 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> On 2017-12-22 at 20:25, Dan Norton wrote: > >>>> Interesting. You're not going to see Edit however unless you have >>>> a Write in progress. >>> >>> Eh? In the main Thunderbird or Firefox window - with the folder >>> list, message list, and (in my preferred layout) selected message - >>> I most certainly do see an Edit menu; it's right next to the File >>> menu. >> >> No File or Edit menu in the main window here. >> >>>> From the window where you read email, you can get to Preferences >>>> via some mouse gymnastics and then to Account settings. This >>>> window could use a tool bar. >>> No complicated gymnastics are required; it's simply Edit -> >>> Preferences. (I don't even know what gymnastics you're proposing.) >> >> I installed Thunderbird on a netinst of Debian 8 and 9 using >> synaptic. Same result for both: no File or Edit menu. >> >> What version of Thunderbird are you using? How did you install it? > > (I replied to your off-list response before seeing this one. Sorry.) > > I'd forgotten that apparently Thunderbird now ships with the menu bar > disabled by default, for the same (IMO wrongheaded) reasons as Firefox > does. > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/display-thunderbird-menus-and-toolbar > explains how to turn it back on; it's been so long since I did so that > I'd forgotten that having it off was even an option, especially since I > don't understand (on any but an intellectual level) why anyone would > want to have it off.
I accidentally stumbled upon being able to use ALT+F to bring up the toolbar without toggling it into (semi-)permanent view. I think I meant to hit CTRL+F to "find" something once upon a time and clicked the ALT key instead. ALT+F seems to work for a couple different packages that also default to the toolbar being toggled out of view. With the ALT+F trick now in hand, I leave all mine toggled off. It's less distracting for my brain. :) Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *