On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 07:43:22 (-0700), Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 11/5/21 4:50 AM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: > > > > I did some test by installing 2 identical virtualbox instances > > (EFI turned on) with the same netinst image > > <debian-11.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso>. > > > > I typically use XFCE, so I wanted to test if leaving "Debian > > desktop environment" marked would affect or not my XFCE > > installation. > > > > It does. > > > > a) > > | [ ] Debian desktop environment > > | [*] XFCE > > > > b) > > | [*] Debian desktop environment > > | [*] XFCE > > > > Using (b), I end up with 12 more installed packages. I checked > > that there weren't any available upgrades after installing both > > (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade showed 0). > > > > The offending list is: > > > > hv3 [ and its dependencies ] > > > > Maybe there's a bug somewhere in tasksel? > > I consider it Faulty Design. > > there is no "Debian desktop environment"... from my superficial > testing it is kinda "Gnome Lite" > (and in My Opinion gnome desktop is rather hateful). > > Being selected by default is a Huge design flaw. > > a simple "select a desktop environment" text message with something > like "without a desktop you only get a terminal" as a suggestion for > the uninformed would be far superior.
This particular horse was flogged a year ago. Top of thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/09/msg00238.html It's not something I take great interest in as I don't use a DE. > BTW: I only use net-install because I don't want all that cruft. I wasn't aware that the netinst d-i distinguished itself by not installing "cruft". AIUI, whether you install a DE depends on your replies on this screen: │ Choose software to install: │ │ │ │ [*] Debian desktop environment │ │ [*] ... GNOME │ │ [ ] ... Xfce │ │ [ ] ... GNOME Flashback │ │ [ ] ... KDE Plasma │ │ [ ] ... Cinnamon │ │ [ ] ... MATE │ │ [ ] ... LXDE │ │ [ ] ... LXQt │ │ [ ] web server │ │ [ ] SSH server │ │ [*] standard system utilities │ I've installed non-DE and non-DE, non-X systems from DVDs in the past, and one DE installation from a netinst. > PS: hunting down all swap partitions on very drive and setting them to > Format by default is also a real pain in the tush. I've no idea what is meant by this, nor its relevance to the Subject. I'd mention in passing that I installed bullseye on a 512MB laptop without configuring any swap space, as always. I leave that until the system is up and running. Cheers, David.