On Tue, 11 Apr 2023, Jeremy Ardley wrote:


On 11/4/23 02:19, Tim Woodall wrote:

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have that option any more. My cable modem
appears only to expose a layer 4 connection.

Previous version of my router appear to have a "modem mode" but that
doesn't exist in my version.


Here in Australia we have a national operator called NBN that runs its own country-wide network and provides the Network Termination Devices to every household and business.

Then we have a large number ISPs who connect to NBN and have a virtual circuit established between them and each individual customer. It is up to each ISP what services they provide. As a customer you are virtually connected to an ISP router and have no exposure to the network inbetween - which could be DSL or cable or fibre or even wireless.

What you see is what your ISP wants you to see. Some of them add an extra box between you and the NTD to make it harder (allegedly easier for them to manage it better, actually to lock you in).

You have the option of changing ISP to one that provides correct IP services. That may include chucking out any extra box and connecting direct to the NTD.

Here is something I found about the UK. OpenReach sounds very similar to NBN



Here's an overview of the broadband options and market structure in the UK:


I'm in Dublin, and where I'm living currently my only option is Virgin
cable.

My googling suggests that a superhub or hub 5 can be switched to 'modem
only' mode but I've got a hub 6 which doesn't have that option.


  Virgin Media: Virgin Media is the largest cable broadband provider
  in the UK, operating its own network separate from Openreach's
  infrastructure. Virgin Media's network is based on Hybrid
  Fibre-Coaxial (HFC) technology, which delivers high-speed internet
  using a combination of fiber-optic and coaxial cables. Virgin Media
  is not obligated to provide wholesale access to its network, meaning
  customers can only access services directly from Virgin Media.



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