On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Just a friendly reminder of the code of conduct that we agree to be bound
> by when we participate in this list, pasted below for convenience, but
> originally from here [0].
> 

As a semi-moderator of the list and the person that posts the FAQ here
each month - a request from me.

Could we please finish the package managers thread at this point?
This is another long thread that is, essentially, going nowhere.
Whatever the merits of any of the arguments in the thread about the
utility or otherwise of various package management front ends, those
have long since been lost and the thread is now the same claims and 
counter claims. 

> I'm seeing a shocking and disappointing amount of disrespect and vulgarity
> of late from several parties.  If there is no active moderation possible,
> it would be nice to see us moderate ourselves into civility, lest this list
> degenerate into something that embarrasses the entire Debian project.
> 

As a member of the Community Team:

Debian is supposed to be a welcoming place. The request is that discussions
should be respectful, constructive and that everyone should engage in 
good faith. Debian user is often people's first encounter with a Debian
mailing list. The standard slips sometimes but we should endeavour to
maintain this as far as we can: regulars on the list should be aware of
what is appropriate - and that doesn't include sniping at people.

I would appreciate it if some folk would pause and consider whether a 
two or three way argument about the merits of how an individual conducts 
themselves on the list actually merits continued reply and counter-reply
to the extent that this is happening.

Breathe, pause from the keyboard and consider whether instant new replies
are helpful, please.
> David
> 

With every good wish,

Andy Cater
[For the Debian Community Team]
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> [0] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

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