On 9/25/23 10:03, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Rick,

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 08:58:04PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote:
2023-09-24 20:48:37 1qkRDH-001Zqh-1Z ==
6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-54): retry time not reached for any host for
'mail.purecuresol.co'
There isn't anything shown except delivery attempts so we can';t see
how these messages got in to your system. You can see all logs
related to this message with:

# exim4 -Mvl 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V

and view its headers and body with "-Mvh" and "-Mvb" respectively.
That might give you some more hints.


Thanks Andy!  Here are those lists:

# exim4 -Mvl 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V

2023-09-24 06:50:01 Received from <> H=(timshel) [::1] P=smtp S=2662
2023-09-24 06:50:05 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 06:50:08 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 06:50:08 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:45 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:48 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:38:48 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:28 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:31 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 07:56:31 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:50 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:53 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 08:37:53 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:46 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:49 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 09:23:49 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:54:59 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:55:02 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 10:55:02 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 12:50:28 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 12:50:32 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 12:50:32 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 15:17:06 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 15:17:08 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 15:17:08 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 18:51:18 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 18:51:21 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-24 18:51:21 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 00:16:50 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 00:16:54 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 00:16:54 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 06:41:13 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 06:41:16 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT 2023-09-25 06:41:16 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=3752: 451 <> server temporarily unavailable. AUP#MXRT

# exim4 -Mvh 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V

1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V-H
Debian-exim 104 112
<>
1695559801 0
-received_time_usec .778123
-received_time_complete 1695559801.832337
--helo_name timshel
-host_address [::1]:34848
-interface_address [::1]:25
-received_protocol smtp
-body_linecount 53
-max_received_linelength 103
-host_lookup_failed
-tls_resumption A
XX
1
6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co

183P Received: from [::1] (helo=timshel)
    by timshel with smtp (Exim 4.96)
    id 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V
    for 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co;
    Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:50:01 -0600
059  Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
051F From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@timshel>
057T To: 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co
018  MIME-Version: 1.0
118  Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
    boundary="foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801"
040I Message-Id: <E1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V@timshel>
038  Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:50:01 -0600

# exim4 -Mvb 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V

1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V-D
--foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801
Content-Type: text/plain

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error.

Reason: General SMTP/ESMTP error.

The following address(es) failed:
rickm@localhost
   SMTP error: 550 header syntax

--foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; timshel

Final-Recipient: rfc822; rickm@localhost
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:50:01 -0600 (MDT)
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: 550 header syntax

--foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801
Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers

X-Original-To: ri...@timshel.ca
Delivered-To: x2959...@pdx1-sub0-mail-mx207.dreamhost.com
Received: from tulsa.turntext.co (unknown [104.234.25.229])
    by pdx1-sub0-mail-mx207.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RtbVJ37KPz6m2v
    for <ri...@timshel.ca>; Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d=turntext.co;
 h=Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Message-ID; i=wornkneecartil...@turntext.co;
 bh=CBxd431jRA2owpgtRRwIfhh07HQ=;
 b=gHSMnk0fIYnLGQMVojCZV3z41dNcSDXALZjYjGOQIeWpdDRnH1sBJQfHSP1kzPxUfJa/crsQxxk0
EEY0hk6SjSg1YMK0YDqaT3OXZpz67fAgfVqbB+/ZLA7peSq+mggzKwXIfesN5AC+H7c6pFd6rOii
   E7T+FwmD2FKVnP6z0is=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d=turntext.co;
 b=FZY5bgp2/ypBd4Xc/Efzs345ind+OlkYi2NY3G5/m9tEesrUIeIGeE3JR8wlb2+gDhJDNA2BmzYx
53+nwYoiSBgyl/seZvILf1Ojhxg2y0YQWVwzF4LYDunZHfOV8RsiXxhHwL+xjbcTK3zPuKvdOjRF
   1yRVz4iZe7AkjSr5Veo=;
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="21ceb14ceae19fd582462d70f2ee8d8a"
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:19:41 -0700
From: "Knee Hurts?" <Worn Knee cartil...@turntext.co>
Reply-To: "Knee Hurts?" <Worn Knee cartil...@turntext.co>
Subject: Instant Knee Pain Relief Trick
To: <ri...@timshel.ca>
Message-ID: <1xu8jk2c4inj2p2f-3y6h9omre9m1l8xx-4...@turntext.co>

--foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801--


I note that the destination addresses on these messages are of the form:

     <6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co>

and your name is Rick Macdonald, so it seems possible to me that
they have sent you an email with their envelope sender set to
<6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co> which
implies they might have sent it TO <ri...@timshel.ca> (an address
for you encoded in their envelope sender so they can track bounces),
which might be you.

Perhaps your system is trying to send a response to a mail you have
received.

If my system is trying to reply tho them, should I stop it from trying to reply? (Of course I don't know how to do that!)

I should explain that my domain and email address are hosted at Dreamhost. I use fetchmail to pull it from there to the IMAP server that I run on my Linux machine. So I think that means these reply attempts occur when fetchmail passes mail to my local machine. I've been adding more and more rules to my procmail filtering, but I don't know if these reply attempts are before or after procmail processes my rules.

Rick


Cheers,
Andy


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