Gareth,
You are a prince among souls, this wisdom was profoundly helpful.
However, there seems to be a problem, for which I would appreciate
permission to write you off list.
Would this be okay?
Thanks so truly much,
Kare
On Mon, 27 Nov 2023, Gareth Evans wrote:
On Mon 27 Nov 2023, at 00:01, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Changing the subjectline at the kind suggestion of another user.
Kare
Sharing what I posted to alpine as well as here..My resource is doing all
they can, but I truly am not equips to help them..please someone who knows what
they are doing first hand get in touch?
Currently uses alpine to access their gmail account.
A bit of context
I experience sight loss, with basic html my only direct access to my gmail
account..which has been removed as of last Monday.
I use my gmail account personally and professionally, its lost is quite quite
quite a situation for me.
There is an associate in Toronto who is aiming to provide an email setup,
configuring alpine to access gmail, but he has never configured alpine before.
As I experience sight loss, and have only accessed my gmail account via the web
interface, I need to
1, be sure what I am told should happen here incorporating imap is what I
expect,
and 2, insure my associate has correct information, all of my alpine access is
via dreamhost, and they do not configure alpine well.
My associate is using Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows one to
authenticate to gmail, but I am seeking someone with direct experience so this
gets done to the best of Alpine's ability.
If you are personally doing this, Can you please write me off list?
I absolutely positively do not have the emotional capacity to gamble here,
hoping to connect Ron with someone who knows what they are doing.
klewel...@shellworld.net
thanks,
Kare
Hi Karen,
Google allows you to use "backup codes" as a two-factor authentication method,
which avoids the need for a phone or app, though as far as I recall, you need to receive
a text message or use an authenticator app at least once, to turn on two-factor
authentication in the first place. You only get so many backup codes and they only work
once each. After that, you can still sign in to generate more, but only through the web,
so would need to be able to receive a text message or use an authenticator app if/when
you run out of codes.
If you go to
Gmail settings
then
See all settings
then
Forwarding and POP/IMAP
then
IMAP Access
there is an option to enable IMAP, but in the client configuration instructions (link at
the bottom of that section) it says "In the coming weeks, the option to 'Enable
IMAP' or 'Disable IMAP' will no longer be available. IMAP access is always enabled in
Gmail, and your current connections to other email clients aren't affected. You don't
need to take any action."
So it looks like you may not actually need to enable IMAP, but I did anyway.
Also worth noting that, at least currently, if Auto-Expunge is set to "on" in
this section, deleted messages are only archived, not deleted. Further options become
enabled if you turn off auto-expunge.
I had to enter my password again after clicking save changes.
Here are the steps I followed to test alpine with gmail just now - google asks
you to confirm your identity by re-entering your password at certain points.
Sign into gmail.com
Click the Google Account icon at the top right
Click Manage your google account
Click the Security option on the left
Click 2-step verification
Turn on 2-step verification - this will involve receiving a text message or
using an authenticator app. I can't see any way around this.
At bottom of section choose Backup Codes
Save or print the list of codes
Go back to 2-step verification page
At bottom of page click the arrow next to App Passwords
Enter a name for the app you are setting a password for, eg. alpine
Click create
Screenshot or write down and/or copy to clipboard the code shown
Click done
Start alpine (I'm assuming it's new and unconfigured)
Press S for setup
Press L for collection lists
Press A for add collection
Fill in:
Nickname: eg. gmail
Server: imap.gmail.com:993/ssl/user=youraddr...@gmail.com
Press Ctrl+X to save changes
Alpine will ask you to set a master password and the password for gmail
The password you should enter for gmail here is the app password you copied
earlier
You can press Shift+Ctrl+V to paste if you copied it into the clipboard it
earlier. It oesn't matter about the spaces in between character groups, google
ignores those.
Press Enter
Press Y to save to disk for future use when asked.
press E to exit setup
Press S for setup again
Press C to configure alpine
Fill in:
Personal Name: Your name as it should appear in "From"
SMTP Server (for sending): smtp.gmail.com:587/tls/user=youraddr...@gmail.com
Press E to exit setup
Y to save changes
Alpine needs to be restarted for changs to take effect, so press
Q to quit alpine
Y to confirm
Restart alpine
Press L for folder list
Choose gmail or whatever Nickname you entered earlier
INBOX option is your inbox
Gmail option shows other folders - all mail, sent, bin, drafts etc.
Go back to main menu
Press C to compose message
Write yourself or someone else a message
Press Ctrl+X to send
Paste or fill in the app password when asked
Press Y when asked to save the password to disk for future used
After that, you shouldn't need to enter the app password again.
I tried that myself and wrote instructions as I went along, hope I haven't
missed anything - and hope that helps.
Steps from
https://www.ubuntumint.com/alpine-gmail-imap-in-linux
Best wishes,
Gareth
