On Jul 10, 2025, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 09:44:05AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > > What "trend"? That kids don't use (or perhaps understand) stuff they've > > had no real *need* of yet? > > The trend that people increasingly do not use email as a means of > collaboration. I'm sorry if that is unwelcome to you, but it's how > things are and Debian is not going to reverse it.
You based the premise on _teenagers_ -- "I know lots of people
under 20..." .
My first email address was in the fall of 2004, when I started college,
at the know-it-all age of 18. That first semester was a rather steep
learning curve of "keeping up with email"; and even then I doubt I did
much "collaboration" throughout at least the first half of college.
Email was for getting the university newsletters, or something from a
professor (like "this week in science!", etc.)
"Collaboration" with classmates was in person while walking out of
class, or maybe a phone call to meet in the library (or a note on their
door, etc.). Programming classes were all individual-work until second
semester of junior year.
> > Should we get rid of spares and the tools from car trunks because "kids"
> > haven't yet learned why the stuff is important?
>
> This an example of a dismissive tone that isn't welcoming.
It's your exact premise though -- using the experience of teenagers to
decide that something should be gotten rid of.
You:
"Teenagers generally don't use email; therefore debian should move away from
it"
Me:
"Teenagers generally haven't had an flat; therefore cars shouldn't
have spare tires (or tools to replace it)."
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