> On 30 Jul 2025, at 13:57, Greg Wooledge <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 14:30:56 +0200, Oleg Goncharov wrote: >> One of the things that surprised me is that Debian ships with components >> like ssh and related services (such as sslh) by default, > > Huh? What are you talking about? > > An ssh server is *not* installed by default, and I don't even know > what "sslh" is. > >> which are >> primarily used for server purposes. For most users who are using Debian as >> a desktop or workstation, these tools are unnecessary and can create >> additional complexity and potential security concerns. > > You do mean an ssh *server*, right? Not an ssh client? > > I'd say there's a substantially large number of desktop systems where > an ssh server is installed for a large variety of reasons. But, again, > this is not the default. You have to select that during the installation, > or after the installation.
Further to this, I’d be completely unsurprised is fully 99.9% of Linux users consider an SSH client essential. Which is why it’s installed by default. It’s worth bearing in mind that while Linux is becoming more and more useful to Windows users, Linux is not Windows. J -- John Dow <[email protected]> http://www.nelefa.org PVC:APKTIDQ4881ao2SFS0DZLOe7t6V0UwcuUV4x3dnkJR0TZsYX0usQ 

