On Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025 at 12:50 PM, Timothy M Butterworth <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 12:40 AM Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote: >>> >>> My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user. >> >> this one at least made it to my inbox >> >>> ----- Forwarded message from David Wright <[email protected]> ----- >>> >>> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:39:43 -0500 >>> From: David Wright >>> Subject: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> >>> On Sun 31 Aug 2025 at 17:08:47 (-0400), Lee wrote: >>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM Andy Smith wrote: >>> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En >>> > > Ming wrote: >>> > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update? >>> > > >>> > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default downloads >>> > > updates, and notifies you of them with a desktop notification. >>> > > >>> > > The package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in >>> > > Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy >>> > > reinventing it on their own. >>> > >>> > Or perhaps it's that an email notification is useless for us and we >>> > want a notification that will actually be noticed. >>> >>> In my case it's that I want the packages downloaded at the same time. >>> And I think I've been doing that for longer than apticron has been >>> around—I see in my sent-mail folder a 2003 post to a LUG, exhorting >>> someone to put: >>> apt-get -qq update && apt-get -dqq dist-upgrade && apt-get -sqq upgrade >>> into their crontab, or perhaps their /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (which seems >>> concordant with the age of the post). >>> >>> Nowadays my root crontabs have: >>> apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" update && >>> apt-get -qq -d -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" >>> dist-upgrade && find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*deb' >>> I occasionally find it useful to take a look inside new packages' >>> /usr/share/doc/ files to see what's changed. >> >> but doesn't dist-upgrade apply the updates? >> >> I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I >> don't want them being applied until after I review them. > > KDE's Discover checks for updates daily and provides a system notification > when updates are available. Discover will run on other desktops as well. > Discover is also handy when you want even more good free stuff but are not > sure what the package names are. > > Tim > >> Regards, >> Lee > > -- > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀ Can I install all of the desktop environments and switch between them as and when I like? Regards, Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming Targeted Individuals Singapore

