On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 at 21:02, <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2025, [email protected] wrote:

> > The electrons move actually pretty slowly. It's the electrical field
> > what moves quickly.

> > Let's assume copper, at a density of 8.9 g/cm^3, and an atomic weight
> > of 63.5: 1mm^3 of copper has 6.02*10^23 * 8.9 * 10^-3 * (1/63.5) atoms,
> > i.e. 8.44 * 10^19 atoms, each contributing one electron to the
> > conduction band (the last lone S1). At 1.6 * 10^-19 C, that makes 13.5C
> > of charge available for conduction in each mm^3, which is a friggin'
> > lot.

> > If you push 1A across a wire with a cross section of 1mm^2, your
> > electrons would be moving at 1/13.5 mm/s, i.e. 0.074 mm/s: I can hear
> > the snails in my garden yawning :)

> > I might have lost an order of magnitude here or there, but the kind
> > of result is somewhat consistent with the dim memories I have from a
> > former life...

> i worked maintenance in a factory so i can't argue with any of that
> but please clarify
> is this 0.074 mm/s along the length of the conductor
> what about moving in other directions
> how far does an electron actually travel in one second

Hi, there's more explanation here:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_velocity

This example is for copper, different conductors have different electron
mobilities, see:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_mobility

    "when an electric field is applied, each electron or hole is
    accelerated by the electric field. If the electron were in a vacuum, it
    would be accelerated to ever-increasing velocity (called ballistic
    transport). However, in a solid, the electron repeatedly scatters off
    crystal defects, phonons, impurities, etc., so that it loses some
    energy and changes direction. The final result is that the electron
    moves with a finite average velocity, called the drift velocity. This
    net electron motion is usually much slower than the normally occurring
    random motion."

    "the same conductivity could come from a small number of electrons with
    high mobility for each, or a large number of electrons with a small
    mobility for each"

Metals are the latter, so the velocity is slow. In other other materials,
for example semiconductors, the velocity is higher:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_mobility#Examples

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