On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 09:32:22AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > Hi, that was all good advice. I'd add that before making a bug report,
> >> > I'd suggest checking something like:
> >> >
> >> > $ sudo journalctl -b -g 'not supported'
> >> >
> >> > because if the GPU driver is reporting that certain graphics capabilities
> >> > are not supported, then the bug would be in the software that attempts
> >> > to use those capabilities when they aren't available.
> >> 
> >> If it crashes the whole OS, the bug is not just in the application but
> >> further down (somewhere in the stack, as described by the Wanderer).
> >
> > Usually, but not always, I can ssh in, send a few signals to some
> > applications and then type 'poweroff'.
> 
> Aha: I assumed "crashes Trixie" means the whole OS crashed.
> 
> If you can still access the machine via SSH, then presumably only the
> video part is wedged.  Still: if the whole user session is made unusable
> and the graphics stack is sufficiently confused that you can't "log out and
> log back in" (as seems to be the case based on your description), then
> the problem is not just in the application but somewhere within the
> graphics stack.

Your description is correct. Graphics/console becomes unusable, it freezes
showing whatever was being displayed. Curiously the mouse still moves.
Sometimes (wild estimate of 1 in 5 times) the screen goes completely white.

I set firefox (& librewolf) config to not use hardware acceleration.

Stable for a week, but a couple of hours after me telling the list it happened
again. I clicked on a link in Firefox and it froze. I was able to ssh in send
HUP to important applications & start shutdown.

Messages in the system journal, many like this:

Apr 08 16:22:16 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: ring 0 stalled 
for more than 10484msec
Apr 08 16:22:16 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup 
(current fence id 0x0000000002bf98d1 last fence id 0x0000000002bf9958 on ring 0)
Apr 08 16:22:16 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: ring 5 stalled 
for more than 10236msec
Apr 08 16:22:16 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup 
(current fence id 0x0000000000041106 last fence id 0x0000000000041107 on ring 5)
Apr 08 16:22:16 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: ring 3 stalled 
for more than 10236msec

Then some:

Apr 08 16:22:17 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: radeon 0000:01:00.0: scheduling IB 
failed (-35).
Apr 08 16:22:17 mint.phcomp.co.uk kernel: [drm:radeon_gem_va_ioctl [radeon]] 
*ERROR* Couldn't update BO_VA (-35)

lshw says that is a Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]

I prolly ought to just replace it, it is 14 years old.

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