Chris Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Sven Hartge <[email protected]> wrote: >> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Wednesday 08 July 2026 07:23:33 am Greg Wooledge wrote: >>>> If you don't have this file (or if it's empty), then make sure you >>>> have the rsyslog package installed. That one stopped being installed >>>> by default some time ago, in favor of systemd's binary journaling. >> >>> Why would they have done that? I remember reading about that in here >>> some time back, but don't understand the reasoning behind that >>> particular change... >> >> People who want or need the traditional syslog know how to install it. >> The rest doesn't and it reduced the unnecessary package bloat and log >> duplication. >> >> I'd go as far as to say that the vast majority of non-server systems >> does not need a traditional syslog deamon. > One significant downside of systemd's journal is that, with default > settings, it eats up a **lot** of disk space. It's probably not > significant on laptops/desktops but on Rasberry Pis, Beaglebones and > similar systems it can cause problems.
That is not wrong, indeed. But on the same note, if something runs wild and just spams the log, the journal is automatically self-contained and limited whereas a syslog deamon will happy fill the filesystem /var/log is on. And I would argue that anyone running a specialized setup on a contrained system like RasPis and other IoT-adjacent devices, knows how to curtail journald. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

