Chris Green <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sven Hartge <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 08 July 2026 07:23:33 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
 
>>>> If you don't have this file (or if it's empty), then make sure you
>>>> have the rsyslog package installed.  That one stopped being installed
>>>> by default some time ago, in favor of systemd's binary journaling.
>> 
>>> Why would they have done that?  I remember reading about that in here
>>> some time back,  but don't understand the reasoning behind that
>>> particular change...
>> 
>> People who want or need the traditional syslog know how to install it.
>> The rest doesn't and it reduced the unnecessary package bloat and log
>> duplication.
>> 
>> I'd go as far as to say that the vast majority of non-server systems
>> does not need a traditional syslog deamon.
 
> One significant downside of systemd's journal is that, with default
> settings, it eats up a **lot** of disk space.  It's probably not
> significant on laptops/desktops but on Rasberry Pis, Beaglebones and
> similar systems it can cause problems.

That is not wrong, indeed.

But on the same note, if something runs wild and just spams the log, the
journal is automatically self-contained and limited whereas a syslog
deamon will happy fill the filesystem /var/log is on.

And I would argue that anyone running a specialized setup on a
contrained system like RasPis and other IoT-adjacent devices, knows how
to curtail journald.

Grüße,
Sven.

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