At Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:41:15 +0200 [email protected] wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 02:21:22PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Thu, 23 Jul 2026 18:41:49 +0200 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 12:33:32PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > At Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:12:31 -0400 Greg Wooledge <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 09:15:05 -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > > > On a fresh install of trixie (Debian 13), I am getting this > > > > > > message. Where is > > > > > > it coming from? > > > > > > > > > > > > The message is: > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot stat /var/run/utmp. Please "unset watch". > > > > > > > > > > It would help enormously if you told us what command you ran to > > > > > produce > > > > > the message. > > > > > > > > I'm not running any partitular command. This message occurs at every > > > > shell > > > > prompt. I do have a set prompt in my .cshrc (I am using tcsh as my > > > > shell): > > > > > > > > # > > > > # set prompt > > > > # > > > > set me = `whoami` > > > > if ("$me" != "root") set prompt="`hostname`% " > > > > if ("$me" == "root") set prompt="`hostname`# " > > > > # > > > > > > - Does it happen if you don't set your prompt? > > > - does it happen if you invoke hostname directly? > > > - does it happen (improbable) if you invoke whoami directly? > > > > I took out the 'set prompt=' commands from my .cshrc file, it still happens. > > It does NOT happen if I use either of the whoami and hostname commands, > > Interesting: elsewhere in this thread "set watch" is named as the > most probable culprit, which sounds plausible to me. Probably it's > elsewhere in your .cshrc. >
Yes it was. My .cshrc file has moved from machine to machine for decades, occasionally gaining a line or two, And I probably inherieted it from somewhere in the depths of time... It almost certainly predates Linux itself (from the days I was using various UNIX Workstations,,,) > Cheers -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services [email protected] -- Webhosting Services

