On Sat, Nov 7, 2026, at 14:08, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2026, at 11:51, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 19:38:44 +0000, mick.crane wrote:
>>> I'd like to report that if I go to
>>> https://lists.debian.org > debian-user
>>> it goes to
>>> https://lists.debian.org/.internal/challenge.html?original=%2fdebian-user%2f&referer=
>>> and is all wonky with a white/green checkmark going all different sizes and
>>> just hangs like that.
>>
>> Use a web browser with Javascript enabled.
>>
>> Welcome to the post AI world.  AI training/scraping bots have become a
>> scourge that requires "wonky" defensive measures to defend against.
>
> It's not a 'JS being off' issue, I am getting it with JS enabled in NoScript 
> for
> debian.org. Not sure why yet, I haven't yet checked with NS disabled entirely
> for the tab, with uBlock Origin disabled, FF Enhanced Tracking Protection
> disabled, etc. Any of which could cause issues, although, if the system was 
> working properly it *should* work with all of those enabled, just debian.org
> allow-listed in NS. 
>
> Oh, nevermind, the web team must be online, it started working between
> when I started to respond to this and now as I finish. Thanks web team.
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly

Oops, maybe not? 
Seems like the way to go is make sure JS is enable, then clear cookies for at 
least lists.debian.org, then reload the page. I think that should work. 

Cheers,
Kelly

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