Nov 3, 2026 3:41:27 AM Dan Ritter <[email protected]>:
>
> Donald MacDougall wrote:
>> Nov 2, 2026 4:57:01 AM Greg Wooledge <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2026 at 23:25:25 -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote:
>> The reason I thought it obvious is that I'm using
>> systemctl commands which I thought to be
>> Wayland commands.  If I am wrong about that
>> then when I look at syslog a large proportion of
>> the lines at startup and shutdown are systemd
>> such as:
>>
>> systemd [1]: Started cups.service - CUPS Scheduler.
>>
>> If I was mistaken that these were indications
>> that I am using Wayland then I stand corrected.
>
>
> systemd is a replacement init system - the previous default was
> sysvinit.
>
> wayland is a replacement GUI. X11 is still the default unless
> you are running GNOME.
>
> They are not related much.

I thought they were related because, I think I might have just first become 
aware of them at the same time.  Anyway, I saw some gripping on this list about 
Wayland and I saw systemd in my log files and conflated the two.

>
>> All I did after typing 'startx' (as me, not root) resulting in the black 
>> screen was press ^Alt and the first 6 function keys none of which did 
>> anything at all followed by Fn Alt and the function keys which also had no 
>> effect, then I quick tapped the power key.  That caused a normal shutdown 
>> with a rapid scrolling up the screen of the normal shutdown messages and 
>> then the computer powered off.
>
>
> "startx" starts X11.
>
> Somewhere in the log file that you didn't copy will be the clue
> about what caused X11 to stop.
>
> You should read the man pages for "startx" and "xinit".
>
> You say that you do not have a .xinitrc in your home directory.
> Try creating it with this line in it as the only content:
>
> xfce4-session
>
> Then run startx and tell us what happens.
>
>
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