Nov 3, 2026 3:41:27 AM Dan Ritter <[email protected]>: > > Donald MacDougall wrote: >> Nov 2, 2026 4:57:01 AM Greg Wooledge <[email protected]>: >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2026 at 23:25:25 -0800, Donald MacDougall wrote: >> The reason I thought it obvious is that I'm using >> systemctl commands which I thought to be >> Wayland commands. If I am wrong about that >> then when I look at syslog a large proportion of >> the lines at startup and shutdown are systemd >> such as: >> >> systemd [1]: Started cups.service - CUPS Scheduler. >> >> If I was mistaken that these were indications >> that I am using Wayland then I stand corrected. > > > systemd is a replacement init system - the previous default was > sysvinit. > > wayland is a replacement GUI. X11 is still the default unless > you are running GNOME. > > They are not related much.
I thought they were related because, I think I might have just first become aware of them at the same time. Anyway, I saw some gripping on this list about Wayland and I saw systemd in my log files and conflated the two. > >> All I did after typing 'startx' (as me, not root) resulting in the black >> screen was press ^Alt and the first 6 function keys none of which did >> anything at all followed by Fn Alt and the function keys which also had no >> effect, then I quick tapped the power key. That caused a normal shutdown >> with a rapid scrolling up the screen of the normal shutdown messages and >> then the computer powered off. > > > "startx" starts X11. > > Somewhere in the log file that you didn't copy will be the clue > about what caused X11 to stop. > > You should read the man pages for "startx" and "xinit". > > You say that you do not have a .xinitrc in your home directory. > Try creating it with this line in it as the only content: > > xfce4-session > > Then run startx and tell us what happens. > > > -dsr- > > > -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://randomstring.org/*dsr/eula.html__;fg!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!qIRg3h6o7MqmOOI-GWrlL3zcKfwMIBOAnlVEcUG-XuHyga4R1VTY_ftgkyJvSkrsMK2sYxBoQvflgrQ$ > is binding upon you. > [Set the new password to "swordfish". Please repeat everything three times.]

