Bruce Perens writes: > >> Debian's WWW and FTP sites are down unbelievably often. I think this >> is a *major* reason why Debian is not more popular at this time. > >We are working on the problem. Can you tell us when they are down from >your site? We find that there is a 20% packet drop between master.debian.org >and ftp.debian.org . If you find that it's not down, but simply dropping a lot >of packets, please do a "traceroute" and send us the output. >Neither site has a problem from pixar.com, so it's not possible for me to test >it.
I get timeouts and SYN_SENT but never connects problems to ftp.debian.org. Here are a couple of traceroutes (I don't have trouble to tsx-11.mit.edu so it may help track down the problem areas). traceroute to ftp.debian.org (141.209.21.21), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * phone.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (136.159.220.2) 4600.03 ms 2131.55 ms 2 136.159.220.1 (136.159.220.1) 1047.58 ms 1025.61 ms 148.577 ms 3 nsc-router.acs.ucalgary.ca (136.159.1.34) 157.794 ms 634.051 ms 148.913 ms 4 199.71.84.218 (199.71.84.218) 157.775 ms 2145.24 ms 3108.69 ms 5 198.73.177.1 (198.73.177.1) 2667.2 ms 2150.27 ms 3350.95 ms 6 psp.ab.canet.ca (192.68.62.1) 2285.15 ms 1194.67 ms 1048.67 ms 7 psp.bc.canet.ca (205.207.238.13) 337.557 ms 3035.2 ms 2679.37 ms 8 psp2.bc.canet.ca (205.207.238.174) 1076.98 ms 644.304 ms 328.541 ms 9 psp.wa.canet.ca (205.207.238.134) 2390.03 ms * 1709.81 ms 10 border2-hssi1-0.Seattle.mci.net (204.70.53.5) 2637.21 ms 3361.78 ms 2748.97 ms 11 core1-fddi-1.Seattle.mci.net (204.70.3.145) 1667.51 ms 3014.26 ms 2058.51 ms 12 * core2-hssi-3.Denver.mci.net (204.70.1.89) 1260.09 ms 2083.59 ms 13 * core1.WillowSprings.mci.net (204.70.4.173) 2280.22 ms * 14 * core-hssi-3.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.1.85) 409.945 ms 313.767 ms 15 * border1-fddi-0.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.2.82) 469.916 ms 2063.38 ms 16 merit-michnet-ds3.Chicago.mci.net (204.70.24.6) 3688.39 ms 3683.82 ms 1208.39 ms 17 fdd0.michnet1.mich.net (192.203.195.4) 2068.63 ms 2903.88 ms 4038.68 ms 18 hssi0.msu2.mich.net (35.125.0.2) 4638.95 ms 2261.49 ms 308.702 ms 19 ser2.cmu.mich.net (35.124.208.2) 409.024 ms * 309.979 ms 20 141.209.4.2 (141.209.4.2) 339.054 ms 404.828 ms * 21 pearce.csv.cmich.edu (141.209.15.4) 330.008 ms 375.983 ms * 22 bugs.cps.cmich.edu (141.209.21.20) 488.697 ms * 490.238 ms traceroute to tsx-11.mit.edu (18.86.0.44), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 phone.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (136.159.220.2) 3305.02 ms 1046.83 ms 138.978 ms 2 136.159.220.1 (136.159.220.1) 148.849 ms 143.846 ms 138.955 ms 3 * * nsc-router.acs.ucalgary.ca (136.159.1.34) 1546.31 ms 4 199.71.84.218 (199.71.84.218) 157.593 ms 153.6 ms 149.528 ms 5 regional1.Edmonton.ARnet.AB.CA (198.73.177.1) 218.409 ms 154.949 ms 148.279 ms 6 psp.ab.canet.ca (192.68.62.1) 237.97 ms 1107.33 ms 228.778 ms 7 * * psp.bc.canet.ca (205.207.238.13) 4140.97 ms 8 psp2.bc.canet.ca (205.207.238.174) 3647.22 ms * 3970.22 ms 9 psp.wa.canet.ca (205.207.238.134) 1078.34 ms 300.298 ms 239.088 ms 10 * border2-hssi1-0.Seattle.mci.net (204.70.53.5) 2420.45 ms 2598.35 ms 11 * * core1-fddi-1.Seattle.mci.net (204.70.3.145) 300.252 ms 12 * core2-hssi-3.Denver.mci.net (204.70.1.89) 220.247 ms 320.675 ms 13 core2.WillowSprings.mci.net (204.70.4.177) 349.282 ms 334.041 ms 318.865 ms 14 borderx2-fddi-1.WillowSprings.mci.net (204.70.104.68) 268.473 ms 254.2 ms 259.334 ms 15 core-hssi-2.Boston.mci.net (204.70.1.45) 429.215 ms 415.385 ms 459.305 ms 16 border1-fddi-0.Boston.mci.net (204.70.2.34) 318.764 ms 365.097 ms 279.259 ms 17 nearnet.Boston.mci.net (204.70.20.6) 309.281 ms 413.884 ms * 18 w91-rtr-external-fddi.mit.edu (192.233.33.1) 360.032 ms 364.46 ms 349.299 ms 19 E40-RTR-FDDI.MIT.EDU (18.168.0.2) 279.037 ms 364.884 ms 289.323 ms 20 TSX-11.MIT.EDU (18.86.0.44) 339.025 ms 395.707 ms 468.798 ms hope this helps, Andy.
