>>"Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raphael> The fact is that Debian is not in charge of it. But it's a common
Raphael> gathering place for many Debian developers ...
I am certain many Bay area restaurants in silicon valley may
also qualify. But that does not give Debian the right to determine
policy for the restaurant.
Raphael> As such, I think that this channel is "official" enough to be
Raphael> a representative part of Debian.
I see little to back up this opinion (unless you want to
include restaurants and bars etc, which may also qualify as
being gathering places for Debian developers)
Raphael> And when a contributor get kicked from debian-devel, he does
Raphael> certainly feel like being rejected by the developer
Raphael> community (and probably won't get back soon to helping
Raphael> Debian).
Then tell the kicked developer to reallign his feeling of
displacement, despair, and rejection, and redirect them towards the
OPN and their representative, the channel op.
>> By all means go and talk to openprojects people and have them
>> put forth a policy governing the channels on their network.
Raphael> They already have guidelines ... strictly speaking they have not been
Raphael> always followed in #debian-devel. But they are only guidelines ...
So talk to the OPN folks that their guidelines are being
ignored. How does a GR help?
Raphael> They OPN people certainly don't have to decide what's good for each
Raphael> channel.
Why not? It is their server and network.
Raphael> It's up to us to resolve the problem.
Why do we need to resolve problems external to the project?
Shall we ask the california court systems to let go a debian
developer, and that we shall handle his case? How does Debian have
any control here?
Raphael> We tried on -private, nothing came out.
I refuse to violate the privacy if -private here.
Raphael> Now I've launched a general resolution so that we can take a
Raphael> final decision and stop loosing time with such stupid issues.
I think we are wasting even more time and resources here, but
be that as it may.
Raphael> And if you read my answer to Anthony in this thread, you'll see that
Raphael> another simple solution is possible...
So your GR was a first resort, without exploring these other
``simpler solutions''?
manoj
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