Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > between 'Debian', 'the Debian project', 'the Debian distribution' or > > > > 'the non-free component of the Debian distribution'. > > I responded: > > > Except, none of the introduced proposals get rid of this issue. > > > > > > One of them hides the current most glaring instance of it, but that's > > > not the same thing. > > > > > > Or maybe you don't consider the debian servers [and their contents] > > > to be part of debian? > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:51:06PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > What are you talking about? > > Various concepts of what is part of Debian.
I hear from you and from Sven the argument that because this GR doesn't fix everything, it's pointless. That doesn't seem right. It fixes *something*; it doesn't fix *everything*, but it makes a start. I haven't heard much from the "other side" yet to tell me what you think would fix those problems. I haven't heard how keeping non-free on the Debian servers helps in the development of more free software. I haven't heard how you plan to clarify what is and is not Debian. I haven't heard your proposals for how to communicate to users that non-free is not part of the Debian distribution. So yeah, the GR does not fix everything. So what? It fixes something, it makes a start, and it's wrong to argue that we should never start because we aren't sure that the start will fix everything. Do you have a plan to fix everything? Thomas

