On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > about yet. Yes, even the "upstream wants to package his stuff", I'm not > sure we want to have tuomov-like people arguing with the release team > about the silliness of stable releases, and for most of the upstreams, > there is what, 10 uploads a year ? maybe 20 with snapshots.. Well,
How many of our upstreams are Tuomov-like ? Why do you think that we'll integrate Tuomov-like upstreams as DM ? I'm sorry but a large majority of our upstream are sane and if I can get them more involved in Debian, I'm all for it. I've been defending those ideas for years. In my campaign in 2002, I explained that I would have liked some document specifically written for upstreams in order to have better interaction and more involvement from them. http://www.debian.org/vote/2002/platforms/raphael#message You have the right to disagree with the various use cases. That's precisely why we have a vote. I still believe that we're doing a step in the right direction with this. > Having people in DM for 10 uploads a year is a _huge_ overkill. Most DD do that many uploads a year. What about DD being overkill in that case ? :-) > FWIW that's the number of packages I upload in a day when I'm doing QA > work e.g.. I'm sorry but you can't generalize your personal stats to the whole project (if all DD were active sponsors/AM/QA member like you, we'd have far less bugs and much less problems with NM ;-)). > So while maybe Josselin is lacking some kind of diplomatic way to say > things but: I've not seen more arguments on Loïc's end either (funny how > you react about Joss not detailing his arguments and not Loïc), and for > sure there is equally good arguments against your points as well. Well, for the record, I haven't appreciated Loïc's rhetorical questions. But he clearly signed "rhetorical" and only Joss felt the need to fell in the trap of replying. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

