On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:36:38PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't think the committee would be worse off without you; and I find > > it fundamentally disturbing that any of the founding members are still > > members ten years later. > I think this sentence strikes at the core of my reservations about this > proposal. The whole thing feels like an appeal to novelty fallacy.
Well, if you assume change isn't going to change anything, then, well,
I guess you've got your conclusion.
Personally, I find that a fallacy in and of itself, though.
There's two fundamental things that persuade me. First, change doesn't
just happen, it takes people to cause it; and different people will cause
different changes. The current crop of people have had their go -- all
the current members have been on the technical committee in excess of
two years, half in excess of six years. And their ideas haven't brought
a lot of success to the committee; but _even if they had_ it would be
time to try a new set of ideas.
A good formula for almost everything is:
Keep the things that have already been tried that worked.
Try new things.
Repeat.
Calling novelty a fallacy is just crazy if you ask me. *shrug*
The second aspect is there are three levels of "problem" involving people
or personalities:
1. No problem, everything's fine, keep on keeping on!
2. Some problem, but not enough to cause a fuss
3. Major problems, where doing something about them can't be avoided
If you don't have a no-fault means of transitioning people, problems in
the second class don't get fixed, and Debian has a pretty strong tradition
of considering as many problems as possible in case (2) rather than (3).
It takes a _lot_ to remove someone for cause in Debian -- see the DPL
recall vote, or any of the expulsions we've had, or any of the groups that
haven't changed membership for a while in spite of complaints about the
job they're doing and how others could do it better. Having a mechanism
to regularly transition people without fault is an important safety valve.
Cheers,
aj
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