----- "Robert Millan" wrote: > The majority of developers voted to make an exception for firmware in > Lenny. They did NOT vote to empower the Release Team to make exceptions > as they see fit. Results of GR 2008/003 are crystal clear about this.
Unfortunately, nothing can be crystal clear about GR 2008/003 because there is simply nothing crystal clear about it. Ironically, Bdale *is* warping the results of the vote and applying an editorial voice to the interpretation of the results. I say "ironically" because Bdale's actions go far beyond anything Manoj did with regard to imposing his desires or thoughts on the construction or result of a vote. Amusingly, those who called for Manoj's head have now fallen quite silent. There are some things that are clear to me: * I have a very high level of trust in Bdale, even when he starts doing peculiar things. * We should not delay Lenny for further political discussion because people's operations depend on our release. * Discussion of these issues in the shadow of Lenny warps people's minds and makes sane discourse impossible. * We have already made several such releases in the past and do not have a soberly constructed framework for solving the problem permanently. With that in mind, I am inclined to go along with Bdale's "release Lenny by all means possible" reading of 2008/003. However, if anyone views this as a victory then they are smoking extremely powerful crack. I would rosily call this a "convenient failure of democratic discipline" on Debian's part. It would be VERY, VERY UNFORTUNATE if it continutes to be a permanent pattern. I think the very survival of our organization depends on us coming to a well defined solution by the next release. So I'm sorry Robert, your heart is absolutely in the right place but I agree that we should release Lenny. I encourage you to "go with flow" and think about structuring the solution down the road. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com [email protected] - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315
