On Friday 17 October 2014 05:10 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> > The world isn't just GNOME.
> The issue is bigger than just GNOME. Think of e.g. UPower. There is
> various other software which is affected by this. Requiring people to do
> your bidding is against the Debian social contract. While this is pretty
> much what the GR is about. Seems unrealistic, plus seems you're voting
> on something without knowing any specific ("just GNOME"). If you expect
> upstream/Debian packager teams to take people who cannot bother to
> inform themselves on their topic serious, then geez... good luck but
> you're heading towards a wall.Not just UPower. UDisks, PolicyKit and many more. And if we don't take a sensible stand, soon hostname, cron, dns, network, power etc. In Debian, until the decision in Feb, everything worked with sysvinit. And then eventually it broke. As we speak today, Udisk + Upower + PolKit (experimental) does work again. Buy my point is, things used to work neutrally. Why can't we strive to do that? Have the systemd support. I don't think anyone is opposing that. But don't bring that at the cost of an alternate neutral option. Why is SysV Init so unacceptable ? It is a neutral init that serves well for all our sub-projects. Let that be the default choice. -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com "Necessity is the mother of invention."
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