On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 01:33:23PM +0100, Ansgar 🙀 wrote:
> And please also find a alternative for them and not just throw "slop"
> accusations around. Or say that we should just ship pre-2023 versions
> of everything and stop releasing new software or updates for existing
> one. Or however you want to deal with the "slop".

I will again note that LTS kernels have been created using machine
learning "AI" models composed of neural networks as early as 2018 to
find kernel commits containing bug fixes that should be backported to
the stable branches.  Given that people seem to be throwing around "AI
slop" without defining precisely what they mean by "AI", if we are
sloppy about banning all code that has ever been built using
AI-assisted tooling, you'd have to start shipping the Linux kernel
back to the version used in Debian 8 "Jessie".

(Oh. horrors!  The Linux kernel developers have been destroying the
jobs of the almost non-existent people willing to do LTS stable
maintenance work by using "AI", much like farmers in the south
discovered that after imprisoning and departing "illegal aliens" to
"save US jobs" --- that precious few US citizens *wanted* those jobs,
and few lasted longer than a week in the working conditions of those
farms....)

Sigh....

                                                        - Ted

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