Hi,

On Wed, 2026-07-22 at 17:35 +0200, Matthias Geiger wrote:
> he scope of this GR is (non-exhaustive): 
> - Debian source packages
> - Official Debian project software, such as lintian

So if, say, lintian was no longer "official Debian project software",
this would not be a problem?

> It does not include: 
> - Upstream projects using LLMs for development

But you explicitly say below that "Debian Policy and the DFSG require
absolute clarity for licensing and copyright". Do you say this is the
case for LLM output?

You say there should be no special exception, so please make explicit
whether upstream projects no longer require "absolute clarity for
licensing and copyright" or that requirement is fulfilled for LLM
output.

> Though our position is that LLM contributions are contrary to documents 
> already ratified by Debian, in order to remove all doubt, we propose the 
> following addition to the Social Contract: 
> 
> 6. Works Created through the use of Large Language Models (LLMs)
>     We will not allow direct contributions to Debian written with the use or 
> assistance
>     of large language models (LLMs) or other generative AI tools. Direct 
> contributions are
>     defined as packaging, native Debian software like lintian, documentation 
> and translations
>     written by Debian contributors, and official Debian web resources, etc. 
> Other categories
>     such as upstream projects written with LLM assistance may be included at 
> a later date. 
>     This ensures that Debian remains a stable, trusted, and reliable operating
>     system, and protects the interests of the Debian volunteers who make it 
> possible.

So there are now special exceptions for contributions to Debian vs.
contributions to Debian via upstream projects?

As patches are part of the packaging, I guess backporting security
fixes from upstream will be forbidden? Or will there be an exception
for this? If yes, please include it.

Are backports of feature patches also allowed? Or will there be no
exception for those?

How will you handle existing LLM contributions? Remove everything? Or
are only new contributions problematic?

Ansgar

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