Hi, I'm not 100% sure whether I understood your message the way you meant it to be understood, so apologies if I got it the wrong way.
In case you mean it the other way: I absolutely agree that there are a thousand things more important than contributing to Debian which is, funnily, yet another one of my own reasons why I helped shape Matthias original GR proposal. Quoting Andrey Rakhmatullin (2026-07-27 17:29:42) > On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 05:25:50PM +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues > wrote: > >Why would I want to spend my time on a packaging patch [instead of] doing > >other things that I'm having fun with. > > I think it's an important question which every open source volunteer should > ask themselves from time to time. Yes. The difference is, that in this case, it would be something which Debian itself and some of its contributors endorse which would make me spend my time on other stuff and I think that is an important distinction. We are working together, sharing a hobby, collaborating in a common club. It is important that we more or less get along in this club and that we feel good when we work on something together. We should not feel that our contributions are meaningless because of how others in the same club choose to work. As I understand others in this thread, current LLM offerings are more than capable and would have a very easy time automating a lot of actual packaging activities. Others in this thread have expressed fear that Debian would start dying a slow death if we forbid LLMs but would it not be the opposite? I'm not here to crank out as many packages as possible but to enjoy the work itself and the interactions with others surrounding it. And for many things which are tedious and repetitive we should feel encouraged to look at improving our tooling instead of throwing the slop machine at the problem. (I think) I would like to point out that this "loss of a hobby" argument ranges very, very low on my own list of reasons against allowing LLM produced output. Other reasons like the resource use, the ethical concerns, the loss of skill, the non-free-ness, the scraping etc are far more important to me. But we started talking about the time of open source volunteers, so here we are. :) Thanks! cheers, josch
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