On 05.08.26 22:45, Matthias Geiger wrote:
If we want to keep Debian going, we need more contributors, and not place any unnecessary barriers up for new ones.
Does anybody plan to *force* new users to use LLMs? No? Then where's the barrier?
Yes, packaging (and coding in general) is more "manual" work for people who cannot afford large-enough-LLM access, but (a) I expect that factor to shrink in the future (a2) we should be able to find sponsors to donate LLM tokens to Debian, (b) money *already* speeds up our work: one developer might own a computer that can e.g. load a multi-GByte crash dump into RAM and compile a new kernel in five minutes, while the other can only afford one that swaps like crazy and needs two hours for the same task. What, pray tell, are we going to do about that injustice?!?
IMHO it's perfectly OK if (c) you yourself don't want to use LLMs and don't want to deal with their output and their resource usage and whatnot, but Debian is about free software. It's not about usage restrictions or environmental concerns and whatnot: while we should of course be conscientious about that, we don't force our users and/or our developers to adhere to rigid environmentalism. We shouldn't force them to adhere to rigid anti-LLM-ism either.
-- -- regards -- -- Matthias Urlichs
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