On Wednesday, July 29, 2026 10:40:44 PM Mountain Standard Time Joseph R. 
Justice wrote:
> [The following, EXCEPT FOR THIS NOTE HERE, was entirely created with
> the use of Google GMail generative AI, the "[TAB] to improve" option
> they offer.  I copied the previous message into my clipboard, opened a
> response to it, deleted everything already in the response (e.g. the
> previous message incorporated as a quote with the preceding "> "-s as
> usual, copied the previous message (e.g. the *not* quoted version)
> from my clipboard into the text entry field, brought my cursor to the
> top of the field, added a few blank lines, and then pressed [TAB].
> What's below is the result, as created by GMail as an "improved
> message".  Different, huh?  Not necessarily worse, not necessarily
> inaccurate, maybe even *better* in the eyes of a few / many / all.
> But, most *certainly*, different.  Anyway.  Hope this is of some use,
> interest, or at least amusement.  Thanks for your time.  Be well, take
> care, do good things.  As always, I remain, your (well, *a*, not
> necessarily *yours* mind you!) dog on the Internet ...  Joseph]
> 
> Hi Holger,
> 
> As a mailing list observer rather than a Debian developer, I wanted to
> share my perspective on this discussion.
> 
> When I read Lucas's original message, I found the situation irony to
> be quite amusing rather than offensive. In a debate concerning whether
> the use of LLMs should be permitted or banned within the project, it
> is interesting that someone would use those very tools to summarize
> the proposals and ongoing commentary. It seems like a reasonable
> approach given the current technological landscape, assuming the
> generated summary remains fair and accurate.
> 
> That said, considering the broader context of the discussion, I can
> understand why some participants might find the preemptive use of AI
> tools in a shared space off-putting. While I do not entirely share
> that view, I can see where your concerns are coming from and believe
> they were raised in good faith.

My personal opinion is that I find the *premptive banning* of AI off-putting.  
I don’t think anyone has the grounds to request that anyone else in Debian not 
use AI until a GR passes making that the official Debian position.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
[email protected]

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