Quoting [email protected] (2026-08-17 20:13:16) > > > > On Aug 17, 2026 17:20, Joerg Jaspert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 18054 March 1977, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > > > > > Really? Is it? I do *not* see that at all. > > > > You must be blind. > > > > > There is nothing inherently dirty in the AI technolgies or datacenters > > > in general. > > > > "There is nothing inherently evil in knifes, guns or weapons at all". > > Etc. pp. > > > > > Just because weak oversight in USA allows *a few* bad apples cut all > > > the > > > corners and power their AI datacenters with gas turbines or old coal > > > power > > > plants does not mean that *all* AI is dirty and damaging to the > > > environment. > > > > You must have your head very deep down in the sand to not see all the > > news about the various datacenter / ai companies planning ever larger > > "factories". With extra coal/gas power plants just for them. Larger > > values of those for single data centers than needed to run whole > > countries on this world (and notan under-developed country even). Lots > > of them companies entirely ditching their "green it" plans (however they > > named their plans to go co2-neutral, whatever one may think about those > > plans in general). > > > > That is, for sure, entirely imagined by everyone, right? > > > > I'm sure there are ways how the whole AI thing could be run in something > > that more people would label as "useful, acceptable" and not "world > > burning sh*t". > > > You mean like this ? > > > https://d4project.org > > > Disclaimer: this is my employer. Never the less: 100% green energy, 100% of > heat reused in homes. > > > Truth, we don't do training, only inferencing. But that doesn't change the > fact that IT IS possible to run AI in a responsible way.
Yes, it is possible to solve a part of the equation. Similar to nuclear "green" while skipping the question of nuclear waste, it is possible to "run" AI in a responsible way while skipping the question of creating it - and recreating it, in a competitive mad race. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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