On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:34:40AM -0800, Erinn Clark wrote: > * Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008:01:12 12:15 +0100]: > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:08:16AM -0800, Erinn Clark wrote: > > > Anyway, time passed, we changed our official servers, and a lot of users > > > did not follow from freenode. > > > > Well, it should be said that also most of the operators decided to care > > for both channels or stay on freenode. > > Yeah, I knew a lot of the ops stuck around on freenode. I always > wondered what kind of coverage it got. (Just to be clear, I don't expect > you to stick around and monitor all of these channels all the time!)
I think #debian on freenode is doing just fine. Usually, when I'm remotely monitoring IRC and see somebody called the !ops factoid in #debian, the abuse would've been klined already by one of the staffers who hang around there. > > > So that's the history, but since you're concerned with the present and > > > future... I don't know what to tell you. As Vid says, anyone can create > > > channels for anything there -- they are not officially sanctioned in any > > > way, they are not officially supported, and very few official Debian > > > types hang around there. > > > > Well, out of the 40 people on #debian-offtopic, around 10% are DDs, and > > another 10-20% are known members of the Debian community. So maybe the > > problem is that having those people around there gives the channel some > > sort of credibility it should not have (given that most of those people > > in there just idle). > > Huh, I didn't know that. I agree that their presence is possibly giving > it some credibility (or at least makes it difficult/impossible for us to > wash our hands of the situation and declare no relation to it). So > what's up? Are any other #d-o patrons? Why y'all misbehavin'? Well, there are Debian people, #debian regulars, former #debian regulars and other people in #debian-offtopic. As I said before, I don't really follow the channel, so I cannot say a lot, but I think most of the misbehaving is from some of the former or current #debian regulars or recent additions. > Michael, do you think we need more (new) ops on freenode? It's been a > while since we appointed new people... As I said above, I think #debian on freenode is fine currently. If somebody wants to tame #debian-offtopic we could support them, but it might be neither easy nor worth it. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]