Scott,

sorry, but something IS wrong with the log and the weighting. No matter how
you twist and turn <G>.  Fortunately, with 1.29 it finally is apparent, even
to the naked eye:

Look at this Imail SMTP conversation:

12:07 11:26 SMTPD(061103F8) [63.107.174.78] connect 128.121.122.40 port 3699
12:07 11:26 SMTPD(061103F8) [128.121.122.40] EHLO s0234.pm0.net
12:07 11:26 SMTPD(061103F8) [128.121.122.40] MAIL
From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:07 11:26 SMTPD(061103F8) [128.121.122.40] RCPT
To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOTIFY=FAILURE
12:07 11:26 SMTPD(061103F8) [128.121.122.40] D:\IMAIL\spool\Deda33f8.SMD
3464

Now look at the Declude log for Qeda33f8:

12/07/2001 11:26:01 Qed8e31e .  Total weight = 0
12/07/2001 11:26:24 Qeda33f8 OSSRC:7 SPAMCOP:7 .  Total weight = 14
12/07/2001 11:26:43 Qedb73c4 OSRELAY:6 .  Total weight = 6
12/07/2001 11:26:43 Qedb73c4 Msg failed OSRELAY (This E-mail came from
207.108.144.243, a potential spam source.).
12/07/2001 11:26:43 Qedb73c4 Subject: Dr. appt.
12/07/2001 11:26:43 Qedb73c4 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

There is NO reason why the mail had a total weight of 14, triggered OSSRC
and SPAMCOP, came from an unknown third-party SMTP server and domain that is
NOT whitelisted, is directed to a domain that does not have its own junkmail
settings, and we do NOT use ignore,
yet - it does NOT contain a lot entry detailing/proving the OSSRC/SPAMCOP,
NOR does it apparently REJECT fail that mail.  At a weight of 14, it should
have definitely triggered WEIGHT10.


To prove my point, here is the same SPAM sent to another one of our virtual
domains (no per-domain settings EITHER) just 26 minutes prior. It's
obviously failing the EXACT same tests - and look how nicely Declude CAN log
and act:

12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 OSSRC:7 SPAMCOP:7 .  Total weight = 14
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Msg failed OSSRC (pm0.net
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=pm0.net&hl=en&meta=group%3Dnews.admin.net-
abuse.*).
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?161.58.202.113).
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Msg failed SPAMCOPHDR (Blocked - see
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?161.58.202.113).
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 14 exceeds the
limit of 10.).
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Msg failed WEIGHT8 (Weight of 14 exceeds the
limit of 8.).
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 Subject: INVESTIGATE YOUR NEIGHBOR
12/07/2001 11:00:51 Qe7a6194 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Why would Declude act differently for the SAME tests!


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue
Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.hm-software.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude v1.29 beta - Errors



>1. Many messages with WEIGHT=0 or other weights are logged with single line
>entries!? No from/to/subject information
>
>12/07/2001 01:05:22 Q5bfc2fa .  Total weight = 0

At LOGLEVEL MID or higher, Declude will log the total weight for every
E-mail, spam or not.

>12/07/2001 01:06:11 Q5c32194 HEUR10:4 .  Total weight = 4
>12/07/2001 01:06:16 Q5c503aa HEUR9:4 .  Total weight = 4
>12/07/2001 01:06:27 Q5c5b2fa HEUR8:3 .  Total weight = 3
>12/07/2001 01:06:29 Q5c603aa HEUR8:3 .  Total weight = 3

These failed the HEUR10/HEUR9/HEUR8 tests, with the appropriate weight.

>2. Declude Crashed (DECLUDE.GP* file are attached)

Thank you for pointing that out.  We're investigating this.

>3. Here is the problem with invalid arithmetic that carried over from 1.28.
>Notice how it lists all kind of failed tests in the first log entry - but
>then does NOT list any of these tests (other than SPAMROUTING) in the
>subsequent lines.
>
>12/07/2001 01:11:15 Q5d582f0 OSRELAY:6 SPAMCOP:7 SPAMROUTING:4 HEUR8:3 .
>Total weight = 20

I'm not a mathematician, but when I add 6+7+4+3, I get the same answer (20)
as Declude.

>12/07/2001 01:11:15 Q5d582f0 Msg failed SPAMROUTING (This E-mail was routed
>in a poor manner consistent with spam [20000103].).
>12/07/2001 01:11:15 Q5d582f0 Subject: Prescriptions Without Doctors
>Appointment.....
>12/07/2001 01:11:15 Q5d582f0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you have the action for OSRELAY, SPAMCOP, and HEUR8 set to IGNORE, then
you may not see a log file entry when E-mail fails those tests.  However,
they will still be used towards the weighting.
                                    -Scott

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