Scott,

It doesn't matter to me whether we use the JunkMail product or the Hijack
product. I simply want to stop the external spammers from using our server
as a relay point and at the same time I want to stop the scans from groups
like ORBZ.

In our situation we have to keep an open relay because of how our clients
connect to us. It's not practical to load up the IMail "allow" list with
tons of IP addresses. We also have a number of clients who send out their
own legitimate bulk e-mail mailings to their subscribers so we need to allow
that outbound traffic as well.

Based on this additional information, which product will take care of the
job?? We originally purchased the JunkMail utility because that's the one we
thought would handle the job. Can we switch if necessary??

Larry

Larry J. Burton
Solution Partners Group, Ltd.
2155 South Valley Highway
Suite 206
Denver, Colorado 80222
Phone: 303-300-3420  Fax: 303-300-3418
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet: www.solutionpartners.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ORBZ Black List

>ORBZ apparently ran their tests against our server within the past day or
>two. As a result are server is now listed on their site as black listed.
Can
>you provide some JunkMail configuration examples that would prevent their
>message tests from getting through?? I thought we had this taken care of
but
>apparently not with the JunkMail settings we are currently using.

Well, the important question is:  Are you an open relay?

If you are running an open relay (IE if spammers will be able to send out 
mail through your server if they choose to use it), ORBZ should have you 
listed.  People who use ORBZ want to know who runs an open relay, and they 
will get false results if you block the ORBZ test E-mails.

Declude JunkMail is designed primary to stop incoming spam -- Declude 
JunkMail Pro can scan outgoing mail, but it's an "all or nothing" deal 
(either all the spammer's mail will be stopped, or all of it will go 
out).  Declude Hijack is the program that helps prevent spammers from using 
an otherwise open relay.
                                           -Scott
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