I think the weight option would work well.

It could be used in conjunction with the rest of the tests.

John Tolmachoff 
IT Manager, Network Engineer
211 E. Imperial Hwy., Suite 106
Fullerton, CA� 92835
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Identifying countries

Several people have requested a way for Declude JunkMail to identify
E-mail 
from certain countries that commonly send a lot of spam.  We did not
work 
on this in the past, as most companies can not block all E-mail from 
certain countries.  However, with the weighting system, this may be a 
useful test.

As those who follow the IMail Forum mailing list know, we are working on
a 
way for Declude JunkMail to identify the country/countries that an
E-mail 
travels through to reach its destination.   Rather than rely on the host

name of the sending mail server (which is often incorrect, or a .com 
domain), we wanted to find a way to determine the origin of the E-mail 
based on the IP address.  We searched for a long time to find a way to
do 
this, thinking it was nearly impossible, but have finally found a way to
do 
it (without having our customers have to pay over $300/year for the 
IP/Country data).  To see it in action, you can go to 
http://www.DNSstuff.com and use the Reverse DNS Lookup or IPWHOIS
lookup, 
both of which will return the country the IP is located in.

So, the question now becomes, what to do with this data?  Right now, we
are 
adding a "%COUNTRYCHAIN% variable that allows you to have a header such
as 
"X-Country-Chain: Poland->China->Destination" (for an E-mail originating
in 
Poland and routed through a mail server in China).

I'm guessing the best use would be a way to have a weight set up for 
certain countries.  For example, an E-mail from China or Korea may start

off with a weight of 5, whereas an E-mail from Switzerland could start
off 
with a weight of -2 (which would be useful for mail servers located in 
Switzerland, who likely do not get much spam directly from other 
mailservers in their country).  Is there a better way to handle
countries 
(such as adding an option for a blacklist, similar to the sender 
blacklists), or other ways the country information might be useful?
                                 -Scott

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