oops, nope sorry, that was orbz... it must be late!

good night.

jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jones, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:48 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is ordb up? was:consensus


> I thought ordb was shut down.  I removed the ordb tests from my config
after
> hearing something about that and that if the test was being run, it would
> fail on every email because they were shut down.
>
> could someone send me a list of what the current normal tests are?
>
> thanks,
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kevin Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] consensus
>
>
> > Hello Kevin,
> >
> > I use a combination of weighted system and cold block system. But I'm
> > slowely moving into a fully weighted system.
> >
> > Today if the offender is sending from a spamcop listed server the
> > messages gets held. If sent from a ORDB listed server we bounce the
> > message.
> > If the total weight is over 20 I hold it and if it's over 30 I delete
it.
> > We deliver around 4-5k messages daily and that is after killing around
> > 60% of all the incoming messages.
> > Rarely we get complains about the ORDB bounced messages. Never had
> > anyone that so far complained about never gotten a message (deleted
> > spamcop messages). Of the held messages we very rarely see any legit
> > messages in the hold queue. Sometimes a person is sending a message
> > from a broken Mac e-mail client from an ISP that doesn't have any
> > reverse dns setup and the provider don't support abuse and postmaster
> > so the messages gets held (I dropped the postmaster and abuse test
> > down a little bit in weight so these messages no longer gets held).
> >
> > I'm very active on numerous public mailing lists. Got my e-mail
> > address posted all over the place on webpages and everywhere else
> > possible and today I might get 4-5 junkmail per week instead of 10+
> > per day before. The best investment we done after we got Imail to
> > replace our old crappy SmartMax Mailmax mailserver which all a sudden
> > after a patch turned into an open mail relay which the developers
> > refused to see or acknowledge (all their suggestions on settings where
> > correct and it didn't do this until AFTER a patch had been applied to
> > their software that they released).
> >
> > Best regards,
> >  Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The Family Entertainment Network      http://www.fament.com
> > Phone : 620-231-7777                  Fax   : 620-231-4066
> >      - Your Full Time Professionals -
> > eBay UserID : macahan
> >
> > KC> Hello - I have taken my credit card out of my wallet two or three
> times now,
> > KC> headed to buy declude junkmail - on the fence so to speak. I know
how
> well
> > KC> declude works for AV - and I am very impressed with Scott as a
helpful
> and
> > KC> courteous individual - and he seems real smart too - lots of
knowledge
> on
> > KC> the workings of mail etc....  I am trying to drum up support (funds)
> for it
> > KC> from a few of my business customers. I would like some reviews if
> possible -
> > KC> what kind of kill rate some of you get without paying some of the
db's
> > KC> services out there - just using the free stuff. Cold hard
percentages
> would
> > KC> be good. I am using imgate at the moment, but the ability to just
mark
> spam
> > KC> would be so much better than deleting it - and weighting sounds
> immensely
> > KC> better that pass or fail on one test, then on to the next. I have
gone
> down
> > KC> to only blocking open relays (since no reason exists to have one -
and
> if
> > KC> you are legit, you shouldn't want one anyway)
> >
> > KC> Also, what kind of performance hits do you take -
> >
> > KC> sorry to break in on such a quiet day -
> > KC> thanks
> > KC> Kevin
> >
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